# Presence detection recommendation **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [January 21, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557 "2019-01-21T09:22:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Raytestrak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/raytestrak/32/3299_2.png) [@Raytestrak](https://community.homey.app/u/Raytestrak)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 6:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/21 "2019-01-25T06:20:59Z")
I was told the same thing. Although I must say I got a pretty default helpdesk reply. “Sorry to hear that” “Have you tried turning off battery optimization?” (which I clearly stated I already did) and: “We’ re working on a solution”. I hope they fix it, most of my flows rely on presence. ---
**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/22 "2019-01-26T16:10:45Z")
curious I use the “smarter presence” app that basically checks if a device is connected . it works except my a android phone goes to sleep every 10 to 15 mins. Does your solution avoid this issue? ---
**Author:** ![Kjettern](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kjettern/32/9184_2.png) [@Kjettern](https://community.homey.app/u/Kjettern)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/23 "2019-01-27T01:40:40Z")
At least with Huawei, I know these phones are killing apps in the background to save power even if you don’t want to… It’s something you can bypass on Huawei as far as I know. For the xiaomi it could be the same ---
**Author:** ![Raytestrak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/raytestrak/32/3299_2.png) [@Raytestrak](https://community.homey.app/u/Raytestrak)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/24 "2019-01-27T13:44:32Z")
Already did that mate. Battery optimizations are off, access to location is allowed, does not matter if I have the app active while nearing or leaving home … it _never_ registers my presence. Unbelievable since the OnePlus One was spot on all the time. My wife’s Huawei is al lot better since I turned off battery optimization for Homey, still not perfect but more than reliable. ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_somhorst/32/184_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Somhorst)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/25 "2019-01-27T13:49:12Z")
I stopped using the build in functionality. I use my wifi acces point now with the unify app. Works great 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rene\_de\_Maaijer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rene_de_maaijer/32/4090_2.png) [@Rene\_de\_Maaijer](https://community.homey.app/u/Rene_de_Maaijer)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/26 "2019-01-27T14:28:31Z")
Problem is that you must then always have the software running on A computer for comminication between Homey and WiFi. Or i’m i wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_somhorst/32/184_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Somhorst)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/27 "2019-01-27T14:34:28Z")
You mean the controller software from ubiquity? Well there are several options: 1. you buy yourself a cloud key and let the AP use that 2. you buy yourself a raspberry pi and install the controller software on that. 3. you install it on a computer that is always on. I used option 2. I already owned a Raspberry pi zero W that acts as my pihole / openvpn device so install the controller software on that was a no brainer. And yes it isn’t the fasted cpu in the world but it gets the job done. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rene\_de\_Maaijer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rene_de_maaijer/32/4090_2.png) [@Rene\_de\_Maaijer](https://community.homey.app/u/Rene_de_Maaijer)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/28 "2019-01-27T14:38:57Z")
Hi Jeroen, Never thougt on a raspberry Pi. I have one with Demoticz installed on it inside my fusebox (meterkast). Thnx for. The tip Rene ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_somhorst/32/184_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Somhorst)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/29 "2019-01-27T15:05:16Z")
No problem. I’m happy to help people out. I also have it in my fusebox. And it also runs domoticz among other things. ---
**Author:** ![Andre\_Prins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/andre_prins/32/10401_2.png) [@Andre\_Prins](https://community.homey.app/u/Andre_Prins)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/30 "2019-01-27T22:07:03Z")
Problem with WiFi as the trigger is that you depend on wifi turned on. Sometimes kids turn wifi off, for specific reasons and forget to turn it on again. I too think that it’s should work from the homey app itself. A lot of checks depend on presence. I hope they fix it soon! ---
**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/31 "2019-01-28T02:18:23Z")
it’s not just a Huawei thing. it’s an android doze thing I’m on Samsung Note 9 and it still cuts off wifi and I dug dig into the settings and changed all I could think of ---
**Author:** ![Akumu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/akumu/32/8812_2.png) [@Akumu](https://community.homey.app/u/Akumu)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/32 "2019-01-29T14:52:31Z")
Hi Mikke, I also have a netgear router (orbi) and tried the homey app for presence detection, it somehow works to good…or there is something wrong in the flow. my Flow: When: device comes online And: device with mac(mac adress of my phone) is online Then: Send push ‘John’ is at home and mark at home. However, every device that comes online i will get a Push notification on my phone. Don’t know whats going wrong because it should only send push notification when MY device comes online… ---
**Author:** ![Mikke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mikke/32/9441_2.png) [@Mikke](https://community.homey.app/u/Mikke)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/33 "2019-01-29T16:23:23Z")
Hi Akumu, See pictures below. The “Mark as home” flow is on the left, and the “Mark as away” flow on the right. The point of the Presence-card in “And…”-column is to prevent the exact problem you’re mentioning. ![Wifi_presence_flows](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/9/9e5b8aad688a28be98011834c4296382a832adcf.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Akumu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/akumu/32/8812_2.png) [@Akumu](https://community.homey.app/u/Akumu)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/34 "2019-01-30T06:58:19Z")
Tnx for the tip, couldn’t figured it out by myself. Now i can use for the presence detection! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Eternity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eternity/32/102113_2.png) [@Eternity](https://community.homey.app/u/Eternity)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 10:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/35 "2019-01-30T10:46:47Z")
I have recently started using the Netgear App to set presence. Works great for me! My approach is slightly different, perhaps because I am still on f/w 1.5.13: ![20](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/9/9d4d78bd21605156fee323c07144076ddc1ece31.jpeg) I will test the Netgear AND card now. It works easier, because it shows a list of all MAC’s: ![39](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/e/e68cbcca503f9c5601a36870e906f37256d6dd8d.png) Thanks for this insight 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Raytestrak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/raytestrak/32/3299_2.png) [@Raytestrak](https://community.homey.app/u/Raytestrak)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/36 "2019-01-31T21:10:01Z")
Is there a generic app for checking a device for those without a netgear or ubiquity router? The only device I have that can detect presence is my Nest thermostat, but a) it’s too slow in realizing someone is home and b) it does not say _who_ is home. ---
**Author:** ![bvdbos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bvdbos/32/2352_2.png) [@bvdbos](https://community.homey.app/u/bvdbos)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/37 "2019-01-31T21:20:26Z")
owntracks on your phone and the owntracks-app on Homey 🙂 > [@Location and Presence (Owntracks) - HowTo](https://community.homey.app/t/owntracks-howto/5126): > > Location and Presence for Homey (formally Owntracks client) With this app you can enhance your Homey with presence detection based on geofences. This app is based on the Owntracks specification and available apps for Android and iPhone. With the Owntracks app on your phone, you can define regions / geofences. These geofences are coordinates and a radius. These can be your home, workplace or any other place. Based on your username and geofence you can define triggers for Homey (as an example J… works perfectly for me… ---
**Author:** ![scanno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/scanno/32/8358_2.png) [@scanno](https://community.homey.app/u/scanno)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/38 "2019-01-31T21:33:34Z")
But owntracks for homey has been renamed to Location and Presence 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GPaz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gpaz/32/3631_2.png) [@GPaz](https://community.homey.app/u/GPaz)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/39 "2019-02-01T03:20:52Z")
For info, I use a Fingbox ([www.fing.com](http://www.fing.com)) which now has IFTTT integration and using it to trigger Homey flows. I am looking at how well it works and while early days, is generally working well (still has the typical delay with my phone joining the wifi). Also gives me option of grouping users and triggering different flows. ---
**Author:** ![Bart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bart/32/8768_2.png) [@Bart](https://community.homey.app/u/Bart)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/40 "2019-02-21T09:22:57Z")
Hi guys, the latest Homey App update has some fixes for the home/away function. On my phone (iPhone X) it works most of the time, but the iPhone 7s of my wife does not. The system just not detect her coming home… Leaving seems to work fine. Reinstalled the app, all settings are correct, but just does not work well. Even after the update, no change at all. Geofencing works great on a Homewizard, on Tado, on the IFTTT app, etc. Anything I can try to get this working? Without using other apps or tricks, just want the generic Homey feature. [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557.md?page=3)