# Presence cards in WHEN section **URL:** \ **Category:** Flows\ **Created:** [September 27, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-cards-in-when-section/18590 "2019-09-27T18:29:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AVP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/avp/32/10905_2.png) [@AVP](https://community.homey.app/u/AVP)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-cards-in-when-section/18590/1 "2019-09-27T18:29:39Z")
Since some time ago I setup all our iPhones in the family to use Homey build in presence and it looks like it is working pretty well, at least when I look in the timeline. However I now decided to use it for triggering different flows by using presences cards in the WHEN section but it seems like they do not work. I haven’t test all cards but ‘Last person left’, ‘A specific user came home’, ‘someone came home’, ‘A specific user left’ doesn’t seems to work. When I use the flow test function (John Doe) it does as expected, but using it “for real” it doesn’t. Anyone else having this issue? ---
**Author:** ![AVP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/avp/32/10905_2.png) [@AVP](https://community.homey.app/u/AVP)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-cards-in-when-section/18590/2 "2019-10-01T14:09:22Z")
No one else experience this issue? ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-cards-in-when-section/18590/3 "2019-10-01T14:48:09Z")
Most of the times that’s an error in the flows, taken in account the presence is working ok. Can u show us some screenies of ur flows? ---
**Author:** ![AVP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/avp/32/10905_2.png) [@AVP](https://community.homey.app/u/AVP)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-cards-in-when-section/18590/4 "2019-10-01T14:59:47Z")
Well, I have only left two test flows running but they don’t work either. ![6642B20A-628D-430C-8BA1-9DD1A3B80CA3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/b/b707905da4c5a04a6ddd8225e9d05edb28e23986.jpeg) ![42FB9246-B783-4AF0-97AD-9D4D8355BAB1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/4/4854e9a2f07e978996365ee4fdfa4636ff335803.jpeg) ![0439BC75-A650-453F-9192-E069BDCDB1D6](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/a/a9955f88f765d80deda2a8bfb4e062d4631c7361.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![HansieNL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hansienl/32/10634_2.png) [@HansieNL](https://community.homey.app/u/HansieNL)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-cards-in-when-section/18590/5 "2019-10-02T15:05:47Z")
I got also problems with the home/away logic. It started sometime ago after an update. I reported this to Athom. Because I voice the answer was that they don’t take further action?? The problem is not the voice, but the handling of the home/away status. ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-cards-in-when-section/18590/6 "2019-10-03T15:16:05Z")
[Offtopic] Meanwhile try [Locative](https://community.homey.app/t/ios-presence-app-locative/14451) for IOS [/Offtopic] ---
**Author:** ![AVP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/avp/32/10905_2.png) [@AVP](https://community.homey.app/u/AVP)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-cards-in-when-section/18590/7 "2019-10-03T18:02:38Z")
Thx for tip, might have a look at it later on. Did a bit more testing but with the cards in the flow AND section and guess what… it works! Anyway I have made a support request to Athom.