# Philips Hue with or without Hue Hub?

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/philips-hue-with-or-without-hue-hub/14144>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Created:** [June 6, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/philips-hue-with-or-without-hue-hub/14144 "2019-06-06T11:07:37Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/philips-hue-with-or-without-hue-hub/14144/26 "2020-03-11T07:20:21Z")

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> [@Roy\_Hopman](#):
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> in my opinion this seems to be a standard feature for a all-in one domotics system…?

I agree with that opinion.

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> would it change if i went to ‘‘apparaten’’ and activate / de-activate’’ all lights instead of mentioning each light in the flow?

You could try. The issue is that Homey cannot handle sending a lot of (Zigbee) commands in parallel, and I don’t know if (de-)activating all lights works like that. In contrast, when using proper Zigbee groups, a controller only has to send a single command and all devices in the group will receive it.

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