# Pairing Lightwave MODEL L21 **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Created:** [November 4, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647 "2018-11-04T10:04:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bigbrother\_Jason](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bigbrother_jason/32/1837_2.png) [@Bigbrother\_Jason](https://community.homey.app/u/Bigbrother_Jason)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/1 "2018-11-04T10:04:53Z")
Hi is it possible to pair the new LightwaveRF MODEL L21 > **[Smart Dimmer](https://lightwaverf.com/collections/lighting-smart-series/products/l21-smart-dimmer?variant=1421507559444)** > > Model L21 (Smart Series) > > Begin your home automation adventure by using our stylish smart dimmer to control your lights. > Smart Series products incorporate Apple HomeKit compatibility, 2-way communication, soft start dimmers and more! The dimmers... I can’t get it to work at all… ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/3 "2018-11-04T19:51:31Z")
The gen 2 switches (Now call Smart dimmers) are not supported as Lightwaverf have not published any details on the new control method. The old range could connect directly but the new ones are on a different frequency and use a different protocol. Hopefully in the future lightwaverf will publish a public API to connect via the internet but until then all the automation controllers are in the same situation. The only options are via IFTTT or possibly Homekit but neither are very robust. ---
**Author:** ![Phil\_Smith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/phil_smith/32/3530_2.png) [@Phil\_Smith](https://community.homey.app/u/Phil_Smith)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/4 "2019-02-05T11:34:17Z")
Looks like you have the same problem as me. I predominately use Philips Hue for lighting and LightwaveRF for sockets and relays. The Hue stuff is fine but Lightwave a non starter that’s especially disappointing as the new smart range is much better than the original and really invaluable for mains switching So my Homey now sits at the back of a cupboard and I rely on the two apps to provide the automation I want. Anyone want a nice hardly used Homey? ---
**Author:** ![bvdbos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bvdbos/32/2352_2.png) [@bvdbos](https://community.homey.app/u/bvdbos)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/5 "2019-02-05T11:57:13Z")
Athom stated last Friday they will be providing a new Lightwave-RF app : ![afbeelding](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/a/aa483ec2c11c542ff56f4803b4dc7fe49c33898a.png) ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/6 "2019-02-05T13:01:24Z")
The new smart range of Lightwaverf was called generation 2. That will almost certainly not work with the Lightwaverf app even when Athom update it unless they change it radically. The old one sends commands directly to devices on 433.92MHz. The smart range works on 868Mhz and uses encryption so will probably have to communicate with the hub in some way. Unfortunately LW have not made any API public. So not looking hopefull unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![bvdbos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bvdbos/32/2352_2.png) [@bvdbos](https://community.homey.app/u/bvdbos)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/7 "2019-02-05T13:06:15Z")
They have a hub but didn’t open the API to the hub? Then I think LightwaveRF would have to take care of an app for Homey, together with Athom (or perhaps a dev which they sponsor)? Direct communictions can be hard if it’s encrypted indeed… Don’t know if even Homey’s KaKu-app works with 868 already? edit: no, KaKu only does 433: > ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/8 "2019-02-05T13:39:08Z")
Lightwaverf have been saying for over a year now that they will release an API when they can be sure it is secure. Many users keep asking them in various ways when it will be ready but they say the same same as Athom, “when it’s ready”. The gen 2 hub is HomeKit compatible so that might be a way in. I have put in a support request to Athom asking if they can investigate a partnership of some sort. So will just have to be patient and continue joining homey and Lightwaverf via IFTTT. ---
**Author:** ![Phil\_Smith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/phil_smith/32/3530_2.png) [@Phil\_Smith](https://community.homey.app/u/Phil_Smith)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/9 "2019-02-05T13:59:33Z")
Thanks, ill dust off Homey as soon as I see the app - any idea when? ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/10 "2019-02-06T00:45:33Z")
> [@bvdbos](#): > > have a hub but didn’t open the API to the hub? Then I think LightwaveRF would have to take care of an app for Homey, together with Athom (or perhaps a dev which they sponsor)? Direct communictions can be hard if it’s encrypted indeed… Can you control the device via a Alexa skill? ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 8:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/11 "2019-02-06T08:01:04Z")
Yes, Alexa works really well and very quickly with them. Do you think thatt might be a way in? ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/12 "2019-02-07T05:46:29Z")
Perhaps, no promises. I’ve been previously able to control devices connected to alexa, i’ve started an app for alexa devices and you can keep up to date on the progress [here](https://community.homey.app/t/in-development-amazon-alexa-text-to-speech-announcements-weather-news-traffic/8356) at the moment the focus has been on Homey controlling the weather/news/traffic/speech of alexa. I’ve been thinking about adding smart devices to the public app but it would depend on demand and how much time I have available. ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/13 "2019-03-03T18:05:34Z")
I have just submitted an app for the Link Plus which works with the L21. ---
**Author:** ![Bigbrother\_Jason](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bigbrother_jason/32/1837_2.png) [@Bigbrother\_Jason](https://community.homey.app/u/Bigbrother_Jason)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/14 "2019-03-14T14:57:59Z")
I am trying to add it to Homey, but the list below my refresh token says L21EU, does it mean it is not supported? It doesn’t find any dimmers anyway… ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/15 "2019-03-14T15:30:23Z")
I guess it’s the EU bit that’s the problem. I think they must be the newest version. Can you paste the content of that section into a reply here and I will add it in to the next version. I currently have a beta version in the publish queue that uses the webhooks so I’m not sure how long it will take Athom to get this through. If you’re happy to load it via the CLI then it should be available later today as I will add it when I get home if you have uploaded the data. ---
**Author:** ![Bigbrother\_Jason](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bigbrother_jason/32/1837_2.png) [@Bigbrother\_Jason](https://community.homey.app/u/Bigbrother_Jason)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/16 "2019-03-14T15:45:29Z")
here you go ![FullSizeRender](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/1/13ce4d7013bbc0ce96c2aefe3adb531035b553db.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/17 "2019-03-14T17:54:25Z")
I have now allowed for the EU in the productCode. I have added this to the master branch so you grab it and side load it using the CLI if you want to get going. ---
**Author:** ![Bigbrother\_Jason](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bigbrother_jason/32/1837_2.png) [@Bigbrother\_Jason](https://community.homey.app/u/Bigbrother_Jason)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/18 "2019-03-14T18:27:00Z")
Thanks, im not very technical so I wouldnt know how… Will it take long you think? ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/19 "2019-03-14T18:51:19Z")
I’m not sure. It’s in the hands of Athom to publish the current beta that’s in the queue and then I submit this version to them. My previous submission took a few days but the current beta is taking a bit longer. Maybe the scrutinize it more because it’s using webhooks. ---
**Author:** ![Bigbrother\_Jason](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bigbrother_jason/32/1837_2.png) [@Bigbrother\_Jason](https://community.homey.app/u/Bigbrother_Jason)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/20 "2019-03-14T19:09:28Z")
ok, I can wait. I dont want to mess things up with doing the wrong thing. Thanks for the effort though! ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647/21 "2019-03-14T20:37:24Z")
No problem. I will post back when it is available. [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/pairing-lightwave-model-l21/3647.md?page=2)