# Nuki bridge needed? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [May 23, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971 "2025-05-23T22:48:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Roel\_Van\_Eyken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roel_van_eyken/32/131031_2.png) [@Roel\_Van\_Eyken](https://community.homey.app/u/Roel_Van_Eyken)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971/1 "2025-05-23T22:48:28Z")
Do I need the Nuki bridge to pair the Nuki smart lock pro (5th gen) to Homey, or can I connect it without this extra bridge? ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Banis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ria_banis/32/7966_2.png) [@Ria\_Banis](https://community.homey.app/u/Ria_Banis)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 7:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971/2 "2025-05-24T07:10:32Z")
I just installed the new Ultra. I do not know if this is the 5 gen. It works great without bridge. Was connected in minutes (make sure you create a Nuki web account first). ---
**Author:** ![Roel\_Van\_Eyken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roel_van_eyken/32/131031_2.png) [@Roel\_Van\_Eyken](https://community.homey.app/u/Roel_Van_Eyken)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 7:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971/3 "2025-05-24T07:55:00Z")
The ultra is the higher priced full replacement brother of the pro gen 5. Did you connect it using Wifi or Thread? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971/4 "2025-05-24T13:52:57Z")
I guess when connected through Matter-over-Thread you don’t need a Nuki web account? ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Banis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ria_banis/32/7966_2.png) [@Ria\_Banis](https://community.homey.app/u/Ria_Banis)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971/5 "2025-05-24T16:51:51Z")
I used the Homey Nuki app. So I am not sure if it is mattter. I did need the Nuki account , otherwise I did not see an new device. ---
**Author:** ![Roel\_Van\_Eyken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roel_van_eyken/32/131031_2.png) [@Roel\_Van\_Eyken](https://community.homey.app/u/Roel_Van_Eyken)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971/6 "2025-05-24T18:39:02Z")
I remember reading somewhere (I think it was in the best buy guide) that directly pairing was only possilbe using Wifi and that thread required the bridge. Though I could be mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971/7 "2025-05-24T21:35:53Z")
True for older models, but the latest lock models don’t need a bridge anylonger. Locks with Matter support are available with older models as well, which also omits the need for a bridge. I’ve a gen. 4 lock paired with Matter via Home Assistant+Google Hub Thread border router, and via MQTT, no bridge here. ![1000049325](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/e/3ed88d9b7e7c648aa6a11246fa89e1fe3ad03029.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Roel\_Van\_Eyken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roel_van_eyken/32/131031_2.png) [@Roel\_Van\_Eyken](https://community.homey.app/u/Roel_Van_Eyken)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971/8 "2025-05-24T22:31:53Z")
Then I assume directly pairing a gen 5 with matter over thread should be possible as well. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nuki-bridge-needed/136971/9 "2025-05-25T13:11:29Z")
Sorry, I just edited my post. Forgot to mention the lock is Matter connected to Home Assistant. But, that shouldn’t mean it won’t work with Homey Matter. It supports locks.