# No option for native logging of flows/triggers?

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/no-option-for-native-logging-of-flows-triggers/39752>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [December 24, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/no-option-for-native-logging-of-flows-triggers/39752 "2020-12-24T19:47:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![JeeHaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeehaa/32/29849_2.png) [@JeeHaa](https://community.homey.app/u/JeeHaa)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/no-option-for-native-logging-of-flows-triggers/39752/1 "2020-12-24T19:47:09Z")

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Unless I’m missing something, it looks like there is no native logging available in Homey. How are people supposed to troubleshoot issues with flows without any basic logging available (Flow X started)? I’m not talking about full blown debug logging, just an option for very basic (in-memory) logging would help a lot for troubleshooting/tracking.

Just coming from Mi Home and Hubitat and I really like the overall Homey experience (especially the brand new web app!), but things like that are quite an unpleasant surprise. I’m not too keen on installing a community app + adding cards to all my flows to know what is happening.

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/no-option-for-native-logging-of-flows-triggers/39752/2 "2020-12-24T19:58:30Z")

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Welcome to the community and Homey,

You are not missing something,  
Just use one of the apps, simple log or papertrails, I admit the last one still needs some love in the function below.

> [@\[App\]\[Pro\] PaperTrails Log - Advanced Logging and SysLog](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-papertrails-log-advanced-logging-and-syslog/40/1):
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> Moved the following to a Web App Dashboard Behind the Community HomeyBackup Web App: [https://homeybackup.web.app/login/](https://homeybackup.web.app/login/) (as it is not possible from Homey V2 anymore)
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> - Added Magic!
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> - Automatic Adding & Removing Logging to All Flows with a Prefix

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**Author:** ![JeeHaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeehaa/32/29849_2.png) [@JeeHaa](https://community.homey.app/u/JeeHaa)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 10:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/no-option-for-native-logging-of-flows-triggers/39752/3 "2020-12-25T10:48:58Z")

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Thanks for the suggestions, I am using Simple Log already. I really believe this should be native functionality of Homey, at least a Log option similar to “Simple Log” in flows so at least we can add some logging.

[Update] I just noticed that you can use the “Timeline” card to add a log line to the timeline on the main page of the app!

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 11:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/no-option-for-native-logging-of-flows-triggers/39752/4 "2020-12-25T11:15:23Z")

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> [@JeeHaa](#):
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> I really believe this should be native functionality of Homey

Athom doesn’t, I’m afraid.
