# New layout app store

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610>\
**Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\
**Created:** [November 12, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610 "2019-11-12T18:34:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/25 "2019-11-15T07:17:37Z")

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Totally agree, the new app site is as worse as it can be. Nice design, but what’s fhe use if you can’t find apps?  
Design something new, test it thoroughly and only after that, get it online.  
And have I totally missed an anouncement about it?

Athoms seems to be busier with usp’s as Energy than making sure other, more important things work properly…

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 7:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/26 "2019-11-15T07:27:20Z")

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On slack they have told everybody they have heard the request and know the demand for it. They will not give timelines, as they never do, but they know how much the feature is requested for.

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 9:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/27 "2019-11-15T09:32:14Z")

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They have also mentioned multiple times that they have many developers, and have also mentioned that there are two developers working upon zigbee.

I highly recommend that you read the following book if you want to understand in greater detail

> **[The Mythical Man-Month](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month)**
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> The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering is a book on software engineering and project management by Fred Brooks first published in 1975, with subsequent editions in 1982 and 1995. Its central theme is that "adding manpower to a late software project makes it later". This idea is known as Brooks' law, and is presented along with the second-system effect and advocacy of prototyping.
> Brooks' observations are based on his experiences at IBM while managing the development of OS/360. He...

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**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 10:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/28 "2019-11-15T10:03:37Z")

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Haven’t read the book, but its arguable the conclusions are still valid.  
We’ve come a long way since the last release in 1995 (24 years!) and the way software development is done now a days differs a lot from back then, not to mention that the languages and tools used are leaps ahead. I dare to say, breaking stuff up into smaller chunks and get more focus from a team (and more teams, so more chunks) on that particular chunk will improve development speed.

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**Author:** ![Bart\_Teunissen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bart_teunissen/32/877_2.png) [@Bart\_Teunissen](https://community.homey.app/u/Bart_Teunissen)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/29 "2019-11-15T11:19:37Z")

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Yes, i tried to find Smoke Detector in the appstore, it used to give you all apps that had support for a smoke detector. Now i only get Fibaro. I allways used the appstore for finding new products for my homey. But that seems history now.

Wtf athom… The new appstore looks cool, but in the basics there is no improvement…

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/30 "2019-11-15T11:27:07Z")

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Sorry @Jamie, what are you trying to say?

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/31 "2019-11-15T11:41:26Z")

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> busier with usp’s as Energy than making sure other, more important things work properly

Hey @Henk_Renting , I am actually agreeing with @DaneedeKruyff - Multiple people, especially these days using agile methodologies, stories and likely languages etc, can work on multiple tasks.

Just because there is a new app store doesn’t mean other features have been delayed. And Brooks law states adding multiple people to the same “small chunk” will not make it be released faster.

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ie. Regarding the app store If you have feedback, or want to vent, or disseminate it , you should. But don’t make blanket statements and spout your incorrect assumptions as fact.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/32 "2019-11-15T13:30:06Z")

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Just now there are a couple of additions pushed. Top 5 of each categories, and the pictures work again in the search window. Slowly it’s getting there.

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/33 "2019-11-15T13:31:19Z")

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I disagree, @Jamie.  
As I wrote, it SEEMS. I do not take it as a fact.  
But as people can only spend their time once,. Any energy given to one thing, was not spend on another.

Furthermore, I think this discussion is getting off-topic, as the new app-site is being discussed here. And tgat site is really crappy at the moment, imho.

I therefor leave this discussion, so focus can be on the topic discussed here.

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**Author:** ![Marcel\_Visser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marcel_visser/32/66024_2.png) [@Marcel\_Visser](https://community.homey.app/u/Marcel_Visser)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/34 "2019-11-15T16:01:38Z")

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I also really mis the ‘browse in apps’ section… Will sent a request to Athom.

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**Author:** ![Cuflee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/cuflee/32/12515_2.png) [@Cuflee](https://community.homey.app/u/Cuflee)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/35 "2019-11-15T16:18:42Z")

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I also miss the old app store, there is no complete overview of apps anymore and the search for apps is terrible. Bad upgrade, loosing functionality that was there before.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_B](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martin_b/32/8091_2.png) [@Martin\_B](https://community.homey.app/u/Martin_B)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/36 "2019-11-21T06:26:39Z")

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Why not use the words of TOP 5 “SUBJECT” as shortcut to ALL the APPS from that SUBJECT.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 8:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/37 "2019-11-21T08:13:25Z")

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That has been suggested many times now. They are aware of it and it’s on the roadmap somewhere. They don’t give any promises about timelines.

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**Author:** ![Chris\_nl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/chris_nl/32/27194_2.png) [@Chris\_nl](https://community.homey.app/u/Chris_nl)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/38 "2019-11-26T21:33:47Z")

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We have a bunch of smart people here, let’s build our own site, with the option to show all apps.  
Anyone interested in helping? it’s not a huge project

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**Author:** ![Yury\_Shabanov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yury_shabanov/32/18295_2.png) [@Yury\_Shabanov](https://community.homey.app/u/Yury_Shabanov)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/39 "2019-11-28T22:31:03Z")

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Please add All Apps and categories like in old apps version

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**Author:** ![Fire69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fire69/32/8758_2.png) [@Fire69](https://community.homey.app/u/Fire69)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/40 "2019-12-20T15:26:48Z")

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Well, making tickets helps sometimes I guess.  
They changed the store, you can see all the apps again now 🙂

[edit]  
Although you still can’t see a list of all new apps.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/41 "2019-12-20T18:33:29Z")

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New apps also listed in recently udateted

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**Author:** ![Fire69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fire69/32/8758_2.png) [@Fire69](https://community.homey.app/u/Fire69)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/42 "2019-12-20T19:33:50Z")

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OK, but you can’t browse those, you only see the 10 most recent.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/43 "2019-12-20T20:14:10Z")

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For now we have to deal with that

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**Author:** ![Le\_Cactus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/le_cactus/32/9727_2.png) [@Le\_Cactus](https://community.homey.app/u/Le_Cactus)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/new-layout-app-store/20610/44 "2019-12-20T20:44:50Z")

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Imho they should just add an “show all apps” button, and let us chose to sort that list by update/release date, name or popularity.

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