# Nest + Homey = Dead API by 31th August
**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824
**Category:** Devices
**Created:** [May 8, 2019, 8:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824 "2019-05-08T08:53:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Raytestrak](https://community.homey.app/u/Raytestrak)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 5:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/45 "2019-05-10T05:27:01Z")
I got a quite decent reply from Nest:
> [@](#):
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> I’m truly sorry to hear that you are receiving this news unexpectedly, I can tell you however that if your Homey is compatible with a Google Home Assistant it will still work.
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> The things that change are that Nest and google are becoming more integrated together so some third parties will indeed loose their compatibility but as long as the third party products you’re trying to use are compatible with Google Home assistant it should be fine.
Not sure if this will help us. I’d really hate to buy another thermostat _again_. Domotica is expensive as it is, and this would be my _third_ thermostat in under six months.
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### Author:  [@Marcel\_Visser](https://community.homey.app/u/Marcel_Visser)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/46 "2019-05-10T07:44:07Z")
Maybe you can sent this to Athom and see how they respond.
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### Author:  [@Jan\_Willem\_Visser](https://community.homey.app/u/Jan_Willem_Visser)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 7:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/47 "2019-05-10T07:49:20Z")
that looks a good idea to me
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### Author:  [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/48 "2019-05-10T07:50:15Z")
google assistant is (kinda) _1 direction only_, from google home to homey, you can’t add devices like the nest that is then included in the assistant into homey for automation purposes, or any other device that is in your google home.
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### Author:  [@Jan\_Willem\_Visser](https://community.homey.app/u/Jan_Willem_Visser)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/49 "2019-05-10T08:00:56Z")
In my opinion you can sent commando’s to the assistent, so when you give a commando to the assistent to set the temp to 20 degrees the assistent will sent this command to the nest. The only problem is that you can not get info back from the nest because of the 1 way communication. you can only say things to the assistent but the assistent not talks back.
This is my idea
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### Author:  [@Stefan\_Wempe](https://community.homey.app/u/Stefan_Wempe)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 8:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/50 "2019-05-10T08:13:10Z")
Now homey works with google natively. i wonder if this would be obsolete anyway
from today on google is able to see homey’s devices
only a matter of time before homey can see google’s.
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### Author:  [@Daniel\_Esland](https://community.homey.app/u/Daniel_Esland)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 9:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/51 "2019-05-10T09:16:49Z")
Im in the UK.
I purchased nest because of it’s ‘works with nest’ capability.
Not only because it works with homey but other platforms such as ifttt and amazon echo.
I think this constitutes a massive change in it’s capability and for me it will no longer be fit for the purpose it was sold to me.
I am going to write to the uk consumer watchdog ‘which’ this weekend and find out where I stand with consumer law and try and pursue a refund of the nest.
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### Author:  [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 9:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/52 "2019-05-10T09:38:26Z")
> [@Stefan\_Wempe](#):
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> Now homey works with google natively. i wonder if this would be obsolete anyway
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> from today on google is able to see homey’s devices
But that brings nothing if the Nest’s API is shut down and therefore Homey also can’t support the device anymore…
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### Author:  [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 9:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/53 "2019-05-10T09:49:32Z")
Sure, I would like that too, but I see as of now **no** option at all to send information **to** Google home, do you? It is all Google home that asks information from homey and that is it.
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### Author:  [@Stefan\_Wempe](https://community.homey.app/u/Stefan_Wempe)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/54 "2019-05-10T10:33:58Z")
it ain’t august yet.
I know google is very fond of API’s and i would be surprised if they won’t create any to interact with smart home devices (eg google home devices)(eg Nest devices)
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### Author:  [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/55 "2019-05-10T10:56:18Z")
So you think that they announce the killing of the Nest API and then are going to create a new API to solve the problem?
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### Author:  [@Raytestrak](https://community.homey.app/u/Raytestrak)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 11:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/56 "2019-05-10T11:08:55Z")
That was the first thing I did after I received the e-mail from Nest support. Got an answer too. They’re finishing up on Google Home integration. I also suggested that in case (like @Caseda said) Google Home can only talk to Homey, maybe we can set variables from Nest via Google Home into Homey. Not ideal, but it would work (for me). For example, I only use the thermostat, but I could imagine that Google Home could set a variable for HVAC status, or location status , or temperature (every minute). Those variables can be used in flows.
It’s only guesswork as of yet, we don’t know what is going to happen with the successor of the Works with Nest api.
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### Author:  [@Jan\_Willem\_Visser](https://community.homey.app/u/Jan_Willem_Visser)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/57 "2019-05-10T12:14:18Z")
I’m a newbee in this world but this how i see it. I can talk to google home to set the temp to 20 degrees for example. Google want’s to create a platform where al the google devices conecte to eachother in an google olny world… In my opinion it must be possible to talk from outside to that platform (by a new API?) So you not talk to the Nest directly anymore but you heave to do everything through te assistent, the assistent will be the gateway to the google world in my opinion
Maybe i will see it completely wrong…
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### Author:  [@Tangodelta](https://community.homey.app/u/Tangodelta)
#### Post date: [May 10, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/58 "2019-05-10T20:07:54Z")
You are very right! And that¨s mye concern too! Google can throw money anyware at anyone. We bought a product with the knowledge that it supported 3rd party hardware/software! If you study the disclaimers you probably find the juridcal technicality that makes this possible. Though, it is bad business, already removed my Nests!
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### Author:  [@Lombadge](https://community.homey.app/u/Lombadge)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/59 "2019-05-11T02:24:04Z")
I agree completely with this. The reason I purchased Nest products was because they worked with IFTTT etc. Its completely changed the utility of the device and service.
For me; i have less avenues for complaint as I use Hydronic, live in Australia so i have to use a UK product. So cannot officially complain.
But I still spent big $$$$ on Nest product. Good luck with your letter…i hope it gets action.
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### Author:  [@RNLDNKP](https://community.homey.app/u/RNLDNKP)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/60 "2019-05-14T13:34:33Z")
I just contacted Nest Support (Dutch chat). First they offered to refund me (1,5 years old) then the guy had to tell me he made a mistake, this is only in the first 30 days. Next he told me he has good news, if you dont convert to a google account you will keep the Nest functions including the API and ‘Works with nest’.
Honestly I don’t believe this, but it doesn’t matter if Homey quits supporting the App…
What do you think?
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### Author:  [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/61 "2019-05-14T13:46:30Z")
> [@RNLDNKP](#):
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> f you dont convert to a google account you will keep the Nest functions including the API and ‘Works with nest’.
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> Honestly I don’t believe this, but it doesn’t matter if Homey quits supporting the App…
> What do you think?
We will see😜
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### Author:  [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/62 "2019-05-14T13:50:36Z")
Odd I read your account will automatically be converted …
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### Author:  [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/63 "2019-05-16T17:47:39Z")
> **[Google: bestaande Works with Nest-verbindingen blijven werken na augustus](https://tweakers.net/nieuws/152896/google-bestaande-works-with-nest-verbindingen-blijven-werken-na-augustus.html)**
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> Bestaande verbindingen tussen Nest-producten en diensten van externe ontwikkelaars blijven vanaf 31 augustus toch functioneren, heeft Google bekendgemaakt. Nieuwe functies via het Google Account komen niet beschikbaar voor wie zijn Nest-account...
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### Author:  [@Raytestrak](https://community.homey.app/u/Raytestrak)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/nest-homey-dead-api-by-31th-august/12824/64 "2019-05-16T18:29:09Z")
Las het net. (Tijdelijk) goed nieuws?
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