# Neo coolcam pir v2 unsecure Z-Wave with secure Fibaro Dimmer 2+ **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** z-wave\ **Created:** [February 14, 2019, 10:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/neo-coolcam-pir-v2-unsecure-z-wave-with-secure-fibaro-dimmer-2/9181 "2019-02-14T10:09:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VictorvanHillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victorvanhillo/32/8689_2.png) [@VictorvanHillo](https://community.homey.app/u/VictorvanHillo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 10:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/neo-coolcam-pir-v2-unsecure-z-wave-with-secure-fibaro-dimmer-2/9181/1 "2019-02-14T10:09:40Z")
Hi all, I am using a Neo Coolcam PIR v2 which is added “not secure” in Homey. If motion is detected I want to use group 2 association so it will switch the “securely” added Fibaro Dimmer 2+ but this does not work. Is it true that the Fibaro does not except insecure communication from other devices than the controller? All is configured correctly. I added the node id (5 in my case) from the Fibaro to group 2 of the Neo Coolcam PIR. Is there a solution for this? I prefer using association instead of creating a flow. Thanks, Victor ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/neo-coolcam-pir-v2-unsecure-z-wave-with-secure-fibaro-dimmer-2/9181/2 "2019-02-14T11:41:58Z")
It will accept from other devices, but only secured devices, direct association from unsecure to secure is just not possible (general z-wave “limitation”). The other way around may be possible (secure to unsecure), but is dependent if the sending device can send that signal unsecure, this is different from manufacturer to manufacturer. As homey can handle secure signals it can send (and receive) to anything. It is possible to include the dimmer 2 as unsecure, but this is not implemented currently in homey ---
**Author:** ![VictorvanHillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victorvanhillo/32/8689_2.png) [@VictorvanHillo](https://community.homey.app/u/VictorvanHillo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/neo-coolcam-pir-v2-unsecure-z-wave-with-secure-fibaro-dimmer-2/9181/3 "2019-02-14T12:20:38Z")
Thanks, thought so. Hopefully the implementation of adding a secure device as unsecure will come one day to Homey. ---
**Author:** ![FEY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fey/32/17582_2.png) [@FEY](https://community.homey.app/u/FEY)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/neo-coolcam-pir-v2-unsecure-z-wave-with-secure-fibaro-dimmer-2/9181/4 "2020-07-30T13:20:34Z")
Is there a way to make NeoCoolCam PIR V2 get added to Hoomey as “Secure”? ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/neo-coolcam-pir-v2-unsecure-z-wave-with-secure-fibaro-dimmer-2/9181/5 "2020-07-30T13:41:36Z")
As far I know, the PIR Sensor doesn’t support S0 either S2 Security. So it’s no possible to include the device secure. But you can add any other z-wave device unsecure to Homey. (Except secure devices like locks) ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Stoutjesdijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mark_stoutjesdijk/32/47946_2.png) [@Mark\_Stoutjesdijk](https://community.homey.app/u/Mark_Stoutjesdijk)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/neo-coolcam-pir-v2-unsecure-z-wave-with-secure-fibaro-dimmer-2/9181/6 "2022-02-08T20:35:41Z")
I associated a v3 Neo Coolcam PIR through group 2 to a fibaro dimmer, but although the PIR triggers movement, the dimmer does not turn on. Neither unit is secure. Is there something else I am forgetting? Thanks!