# Multiple Apps not installing/starting

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/multiple-apps-not-installing-starting/101658>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [January 19, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/multiple-apps-not-installing-starting/101658 "2024-01-19T16:08:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/multiple-apps-not-installing-starting/101658/5 "2024-01-20T13:28:25Z")

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> [@Michael\_Evans](#):
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> That really puts a question on the usefulness of the online backup system

I get your point  
It’s most probably a ‘clever’ way to save traffic and storage cost.  
But this is NOT clearly communicated up front, which is a pretty bad practice.  
The last sentence in this quote implements regular apps are backed up (the way I read it that is):

> ![Screenshot_20240120-144614_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/5/b51089059cb444bb1cebd8ca72d990df708df2a0.jpeg)

Another specific disadvantage:  
when you’ve stopped updating an app to keep functionality which is removed in newer versions (f.i. Athom’s tado app lost it’s geofencing function), you will lose it while the _current_ stable app gets downloaded and installed.  
When you’re lucky there’s a github/bitbucket older version repo which you can install per [CLI](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-cli-install-method/198)

But still I am very happy to spend €10/y for the backup service, while I would have been forced to start from scratch otherwise. Which will cost me many weeks.

But, I have to say I never read about of this weird app issues before, the last several days some users started reporting similar issues.

And Athom made 1:1 backups possible for the Pro 2023, which is a big step forward.  
With one major downside: Homey has to stop running during backup creation, _and_ it cannot be done per LAN.

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