# Motion and luminance sensor **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Created:** [September 12, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913 "2024-09-12T13:34:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/1 "2024-09-12T13:34:56Z")
Hello Trying to automation lightinh in the hallway here: when motion sensor is trigerred, if ambient light is below a certain level, switch light on. Pretty basic need, so it seemed. I got [a nice device](https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005007265015881.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.19.4cb4o9Kyo9KyZH&algo_pvid=406e53f9-7bcf-4a2e-9101-9a97a049bb90&algo_exp_id=406e53f9-7bcf-4a2e-9101-9a97a049bb90-9&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2113.68%2111.99%21%21%21104.83%2191.87%21%40210385db17261478015797689e1183%2112000040113069355%21sea%21FR%211953405469%21X&curPageLogUid=JfGgZZENINgk&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A) from Aliexpress that seemed perfect But when I received it I realised it required a wired power adapter, which is not ok for me (it seems all human presence sensors are wired, when motion sensors can run on battery). So i went looking for a basic (zigbee) motion + luminance sensor running on battery compatible with my Homey Pro. I could not find anything except Tuya devices, but I don’t wanbt that since pairring can be very challenging to say the least (I tried pairing my human presence sensor and never succeeded). Any recommandation that is supported by Homey? Alternatively a luminance only sensor would be jsut as good (but I could not find any) Thanks Olivier ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/2 "2024-09-12T16:26:34Z")
> **[Smart Motion Sensors](https://homey.app/en-nl/best-buy-guide/motion-sensors/)** > > Discover the Best Motion Sensors for Your Smart Home. From what I’ve read the Hue sensor sends lux values independent from motion events. Most motion sensors with lux meter, only send a changed lux value along with a motion event, which is a bit useless when you need to act on actual lux values. Aqara has a supported dedicated luminance sensor, “Light sensor T1” ---
**Author:** ![Marco\_Dijkstra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marco_dijkstra/32/16541_2.png) [@Marco\_Dijkstra](https://community.homey.app/u/Marco_Dijkstra)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/3 "2024-09-13T03:46:04Z")
> **[Frient Bewegingssensor Pro Zigbee](https://www.slimmedingen.nl/frient-bewegingssensor-pro-zigbee.html)** > > Detecteer beweging in elke hoek van uw huis met de nieuwe Frient bewegingssensor. Je bewegingssensor kan vanuit de bovenhoek een goed overzicht van de hele kame Frient motion sensor Pro. Will do motion, lux value and temperature, independent. ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 6:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/4 "2024-09-13T06:52:47Z")
> [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > Light sensor T1 Hue seems to be an interesting (a bit pricey though but ok) option. I was concerned it would require a slightly more complex use in Homey, but this is probably not true, I have not tried. I think I will try it. The Aqara light sensor would be perfect for me, but I can’t seem to find it anywhere, it looks like it’s been discontinued maybe? Edit, I can’t find it in France, but found it on Aliexpress, i have ordered it. At least I’m sure Lux value will be reported separately from motion detection Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 6:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/5 "2024-09-13T06:55:12Z")
I found this Frient device yesterday and ordered it from Amazon to test it. It is supported officially by Homey pro so it should be ok, I’ll let you know. I find it quite bulky (7 \* 7 \* 2,5 cm)) and pretty expensive (40€, similare to Philips Hue) I had never heard of the brand, but why not. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Marco\_Dijkstra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marco_dijkstra/32/16541_2.png) [@Marco\_Dijkstra](https://community.homey.app/u/Marco_Dijkstra)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 7:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/6 "2024-09-13T07:24:28Z")
It is 34,- euro’s at; > **[Bewegingssensor Frient Motion Sensor Pro kopen?](https://www.robbshop.nl/frient-motion-sensor-pro-zigbee)** > > Bewegingssensor Frient Motion Sensor Pro✅ Vandaag Besteld Morgen In Huis✅ I already have several and they havent given any problems. ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 7:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/7 "2024-09-13T07:27:45Z")
thanks, in France I can only find it @ 40€. I guess shipping fees from NL would add up to more than 40€ in total, but I agree it fits my requirement, Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/8 "2024-09-13T10:06:35Z")
The Frient website pointed to this shop for France: > **[FRIENT: Détecteur de mouvement Zigbee + capteur température/luminosité](https://www.domadoo.fr/fr/peripheriques/5404-frient-detecteur-de-mouvement-zigbee-30-capteur-de-temperature-et-luminosite-5713594002361.html)** > > Le détecteur de mouvement FRIENT permet de savoir si il y a un mouvement dans le logement et vous informe de la température et luminosité mesurée en temps réel. ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/9 "2024-09-13T11:43:09Z")
thanks, looks cheaper indeed, but when you add shipping fee of 5€ it comes out close to 40€. The issue I have with the price is that I bought a Tuya presence detector (and illuminance sensor) on Aliexpress for 12€ (including shipping), and also got a Sonoff PIR motion sensor (no illuminance though) for 10€ on Amazon France so I find it hard to pay close to 40€ to get the Frient / Hue devices, especially since I need 10 of them. But thanks for your help, I appreciate it Olivier ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/10 "2024-09-13T13:37:43Z")
Yeah I’m not going to check if shipping is included. Wasn’t mentioned. I understand the price concerns, I’d never spend €40 on a motion/lux sensor. The problem with Tuya zigbee stuff is you’re never sure if it works with Homey. You only know for sure when you buy it and pair it with Homey. Less money, more gray hairs 🤪 There’s reasons why Tuya did not make it to the best buy guide (yet) ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/11 "2024-09-13T14:00:14Z")
fully agree with you. i just spent 2 hours trying to make my Tuya sensor work but I’m about to give up. Presence sensors are not supported in the Tuya app for Homey so I chose “other” device type. It imported the device ok, but when I want to create a flow it’s impossible for me. It refers to values I don’t know and cannot make sense of. This is why I wanted Aqara or Sonoff as i know they work well with Homey Regarding hair, i have none left, so they cannot become grey! Have a nice week-end ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/12 "2024-09-15T17:11:02Z")
ok I just receive the Frient motion and luminance sensor. Pairing is perfect, as expected. I have created a first flow: light goes ON when motion sensor of Frient gets activated. Simple it works fine. The whole point of this sensor is to use the luminance value. When I try to create a flow that looks like: WHEN: motion sensor is activated AND IF LUMINANCE \< 10 lux I cannot seem to find a way. I have a card for “MOTION SENSOR IS ACTIVATED”, but then I don’t see any card for Luminance value condition. If I start with the 1st condition of the flow is LUMINANCE, then I have an option to choose a card called “IF LUMINANCE GOES ABOVE / BEYOND a certain value”, but clearly not what I want. I guess my question is not necessarily linked to Frient sensor, maybe I just don’t know how to create a condition in a flow. I want the flow to execute only WHEN LUMINANCE \< 10 lux Thanks for your help ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/13 "2024-09-15T17:18:12Z")
> [@Olivier\_Arthus](#): > > but then I don’t see any card for Luminance value condition. Because this is done using the Logic comparison cards and the tag that contains the luminance value. ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/14 "2024-09-15T17:32:12Z")
thanks, how do i achieve that, do I need to used advanced flows? I have not experienced them yet and at first look they are a bit intimidating. I don’t see how to access the tag that contains the luminance value Thanks ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/15 "2024-09-15T17:39:02Z")
> [@Olivier\_Arthus](#): > > how do i achieve that > **[Using Homey Logic in Flows](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/4410240765586-Using-Homey-Logic-in-Flows)** > > You’ve probably seen Homey Logic. Once you get the hang of it, it's a great tool for any smart home. By creating your own Variables and using these in your Flows as Tags, you can often accomplish c... ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/16 "2024-09-15T17:40:31Z")
Homey logic, is that different from Advanced flows? sorry not failiar with this thanks ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/17 "2024-09-15T17:41:44Z")
> [@Olivier\_Arthus](#): > > Homey logic, is that different from Advanced flows? Logic is a set of cards that you can use both in “standard” and in “advanced” flows. ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/18 "2024-09-15T17:41:51Z")
ok I found a [video about Homey Logic](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/4410240765586-Using-Homey-Logic-in-Flows), I will investigate thanks ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/19 "2024-09-15T17:44:00Z")
> [@Olivier\_Arthus](#): > > ok I found a [video about Homey Logic](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/4410240765586-Using-Homey-Logic-in-Flows) That’s what I linked to a few posts ago 😋 ---
**Author:** ![Olivier\_Arthus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/olivier_arthus/32/88909_2.png) [@Olivier\_Arthus](https://community.homey.app/u/Olivier_Arthus)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 11:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913/20 "2024-09-16T11:38:11Z")
ooops, i had not seen it, sorry [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/motion-and-luminance-sensor/115913.md?page=2)