# Luminance Motion Sensor **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** zigbee, homey-pro\ **Created:** [May 31, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430 "2023-05-31T15:19:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Henk\_de\_Boom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_de_boom/32/71591_2.png) [@Henk\_de\_Boom](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_de_Boom)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/1 "2023-05-31T15:19:23Z")
This Zigbee sensor should be controlled by Tuya but none of the available apps will install this device. Any help would be appreciated. Henk ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/2 "2023-05-31T17:19:31Z")
> [@Henk\_de\_Boom](#): > > This Zigbee sensor Which one? > [@Henk\_de\_Boom](#): > > by Tuya but none of the available apps Which apps did you try? Please name them. ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_de\_Boom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_de_boom/32/71591_2.png) [@Henk\_de\_Boom](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_de_Boom)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/3 "2023-06-01T12:06:34Z")
I only have the name “Luminance Motion Sensor” and model: ZG-204ZL. Zigbee 3.0 I tried the apps: klikaanKlikuit(Zigbee), Aqara, Lidle Smarthome and Tuya Zigbee. ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/4 "2023-06-01T12:38:15Z")
You can try the test version of the [Tuya Zigbee](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.tuya.zigbee/Tuya-Zigbee/test/) app, but according the device list in the Tuya Zigbee App [thread](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-tuya-zigbee-app/26439), this sensor isn’t listed as supported. You can ask the developer of the app, whether to add the device. What you have to do for this, is written in the first post. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/5 "2023-06-01T15:20:56Z")
Yes it’s a Tuya device > **[Tuya PIR Motion Detector and Light Sensor ZG-204ZL Zigbee compatibility](https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Tuya_ZG-204ZL.html)** > > Zigbee ID: TS0601 | \_TZE200\_3towulqd | \_TZE200\_1ibpyhdc | \_TZE200\_bh3n6gk8 - Tuya ZG-204ZL compatibility with third party gateways These “zigbee ID’s” are the three possible manufacturer codes What is your manufacturer code? You’ll find it after you have paired it as Homey generic zigbee device, under ‘advanced settings’. At least for one of them support was requested by me: > ![Screenshot_20230601-171447_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/4/746998972089d68355f14324bfc1a9aeff45f7b2.jpeg) This one’s also requested: > ![Screenshot_20230601-171050_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/8/e847b415479e43d3f2abd4a6be16c876ae71945d.jpeg) But this one not yet: ![Screenshot_20230601-171123_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/0/30fd8b26cceaf8d62e4a40044b6214e2060e7655.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_de\_Boom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_de_boom/32/71591_2.png) [@Henk\_de\_Boom](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_de_Boom)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/6 "2023-06-01T15:50:07Z")
Fabrikant ID is: \_TZE200\_3towulqd Product ID is : S0601 Apparaat ID is : a4:c1:38:c9:a4:bd:eb:99 Is there an app for this device? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/7 "2023-06-01T17:01:47Z")
> [@Henk\_de\_Boom](#): > > Fabrikant ID is: \_TZE200\_3towulqd Yup that’s the one I requested last year. It’s not added to the Tuya Zigbee app yet. Link: [[APP][Pro] Tuya Zigbee App](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-tuya-zigbee-app/26439) ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/8 "2023-06-01T20:19:21Z")
> [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > Yup that’s the one I requested last year. Hmm, seems it’s not so easy to be added - [[New device support]: ZG-204ZL / TS0601 \_TZE200\_3towulqd / PIR sensor with illuminance · Issue #12364 · Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt · GitHub](https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/12364#issuecomment-1116990428) But maybe a reminder with this link would help Johann ? … not sure if he has time to track that. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/9 "2023-06-01T20:24:24Z")
Yeah Tuya zigbee stuff is a PITA when one wants to use it with other platforms. This particular sensor now works fine with the HA zigbee2mqtt add-on though. I bought one of these sensors to see if it should update lux value without a motion detection on Homey. It doesn’t with z2m by the way 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 10:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/10 "2023-06-02T10:32:56Z")
> [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > It’s not added to the Tuya Zigbee app yet. That’s what I said already. 😉 (joke!!!) Didn’t know that is so complicated with Tuya devices. But to name the model no. and of course the Zigbee ID in the list should maybe help some peeps to find the devices. But not my zoo, not my monkeys… 🙈 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/11 "2023-06-02T11:44:43Z")
Hahaha, yeah it’s terrible stuff. However, most of Tuya stuff works with Zigbee2MQTT, but then there are devs from all over the world working on it, and Johan Bendz is just on his own here ---
**Author:** ![Brane\_Brodnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/brane_brodnik/32/78912_2.png) [@Brane\_Brodnik](https://community.homey.app/u/Brane_Brodnik)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 8:12am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/12 "2024-04-30T08:12:26Z")
I found this motion sensor (TS0601/\_TZE200\_3towulqd) on the list of added devices on test version and bought some of them. It seems to be recognized but no data is available. Has anyone been able to get it to work? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/13 "2024-04-30T12:31:18Z")
It’s 50% chance if a Tuya zigbee device with the same ID works with the app. Because Tuya is flashing different firmwares into different manufactured batches appearantly. So the device with different firmware can _look_ the same, and has the same type of description, but the Tuya Zigbee app does not recognize it. ---
**Author:** ![Brane\_Brodnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/brane_brodnik/32/78912_2.png) [@Brane\_Brodnik](https://community.homey.app/u/Brane_Brodnik)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/14 "2024-05-02T11:06:39Z")
Thank you for information. Not very encouraging for insisting on Homey. Many missed purchases of devices possible this way. I wonder how does original Tuya team address this issue. Their application is more reliable. I would expect Athom team to help John Bendz on Tuya support, Tuya devices are not negligible. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/15 "2024-05-02T14:07:14Z")
From what I’ve seen, read, and experienced, Tuya hopes (or hoped) you would buy Tuya only stuff. They do (or did) not aim at compatibility (at all). Of course their own zigbee hub + Tuya phone app works fine. But now they seem to build a Homey app themselves. This is the latest update from Athom > [@Tuya has officially joined the “Talks With Homey” program](https://community.homey.app/t/tuya-has-officially-joined-the-talks-with-homey-program/106779/27): > > Tuya WiFi devices don’t need a hub, they talk directly with the Tuya Cloud via their internet connection. > > You would still need a Hub for their **Zigbee** and BLE devices. That sounds like Athom advices to buy a Tuya zigbee hub to control any Tuya zigbee device from the upcoming official Tuya Wifi app 🤷‍♂️ > [@Brane\_Brodnik](#): > > Tuya devices are not negligible. Might be, It’s just very affordable stuff or, often the cheapest available, but not the best or the most compatible, and not the only smart home brand. Don’t get me wrong, I do have many Tuya devices, but for zigbee I chose zigbee2mqtt as controller. It supports lots and lots of Tuya zigbee devices, amongst other reasons to use it. [https://zigbee.blakadder.com/zha.html](https://zigbee.blakadder.com/zha.html) ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/16 "2024-05-02T15:40:24Z")
> [@Brane\_Brodnik](#): > > I wonder how does original Tuya team address this issue The main issue here is the way that Homey works: it has very limited _generic_ Zigbee support and requires apps to implement more functionality. An additional factor is that apps also cannot build on that generic support but have to provide a list of which specific devices it works with, so if you have device A and device B that are exactly the same, but have a different internal identifier (which happens a lot with TuYa devices), Homey doesn’t know that they are the same device until the app developer explicitly says so in the app (which also means that even adding support for a single device to the app means a new version of the app needs to be published). Other Zigbee implementations are much more flexible in that they may have much more elaborate generic support or allow the user themselves to easily add support for a new device. ---
**Author:** ![Doekse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/doekse/32/109415_2.png) [@Doekse](https://community.homey.app/u/Doekse)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/17 "2024-05-02T18:06:18Z")
Just to add to everything that’s mentioned above; we are looking into adding broader support for Tuya Zigbee devices and we are in good contact with Johan. Besides that it’s indeed true that generic device support can be somewhat limited, but it’s also good to note that a lot of Tuya Zigbee devices use private clusters that can work in funky ways 🫠 ---
**Author:** ![Brane\_Brodnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/brane_brodnik/32/78912_2.png) [@Brane\_Brodnik](https://community.homey.app/u/Brane_Brodnik)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 5:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/18 "2024-05-07T05:57:16Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > Other Zigbee implementations are much more flexible in that they may have much more elaborate generic support or allow the user themselves to easily add support for a new device. What’s the reason Homey doesn’t provide more flexibility and generic support to it’s Zigbee implementation? ---
**Author:** ![Brane\_Brodnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/brane_brodnik/32/78912_2.png) [@Brane\_Brodnik](https://community.homey.app/u/Brane_Brodnik)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/19 "2024-05-07T06:21:26Z")
> [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > Don’t get me wrong, I do have many Tuya devices, but for zigbee I chose zigbee2mqtt as controller. It supports lots and lots of Tuya zigbee devices, amongst other reasons to use it. > [https://zigbee.blakadder.com/zha.html](https://zigbee.blakadder.com/zha.html) Thank you. I followed the link, but my first impression was there is additional piece of science to establish Zigbee2MQTT controller. When I baught a homey I didn’t expect I would need additional controllers for interfaces and protocols which Homey already supports and advertises. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 7:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430/20 "2024-05-07T07:11:00Z")
> [@Brane\_Brodnik](#): > > What’s the reason Homey doesn’t provide more flexibility and generic support to it’s Zigbee implementation? It may take too much development effort, which is better spent on much requested features like port forwarding or moods 😛 [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/luminance-motion-sensor/81430.md?page=2)