# Local backup could be improved, like 100x

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080>\
**Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\
**Created:** [November 29, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080 "2024-11-29T20:35:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![swenik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/swenik/32/31545_2.png) [@swenik](https://community.homey.app/u/swenik)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080/1 "2024-11-29T20:35:49Z")

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One of the features I liked with the newest Homey Pro was an option for local backup.  
But seriously:  
You’ll have to take your Homey offline(!), turn it upside down, use one hand with the Homey and a paper clip and your other hand hand connecting USB to the computer(!) like a gymnast, using a ladder in my case. Sleek, especially since you have your Homey with the ethernet interface in such a convenient place… NOT.

Then… backup seems to take forever, so I select properties on the backup file to see when it was created. Result: Backup failure – cannot write to file after some 300 mb written. File deleted by Homey within seconds.  
“Here I go again on my own  
Going down the only road I’ve ever known”

Finally, after 47 minutes(!!!) for transferring 974 mb via USB-C I have a backup. That’s 20 mb/min, or 0.3 mb/s written. Amazingly incredidible slow, I didn’t know anything could be this slow in 2023/24!

How on earth could the local backup feature get implemented so so terrible?  
It’s like you’re mocking us for not paying for the daily backup (which I do not need)

Thanks for your time! And I hope you can improve the backup ehmm… “feature” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080/2 "2024-11-29T22:48:11Z")

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I suggest you send Athom your complaints through a support request:

> **[Support | Homey](https://homey.app/en-gb/support/)**

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080/3 "2024-11-29T23:08:11Z")

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> [@swenik](#):
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> How on earth could the local backup feature get implemented so so terrible?

They advertise it as “Local Backup”  
But it is in reality a Firmware Recovery Procedure.  
Perfect for that, for a Jailbreak and for a Hardware Mod as CM4 replacement.

And indeed verry Picky in the quality of the cable and USB Port (fe Power etc. )

But imho only the Homey Cloud Backup is a real Backup. Offline is not meant for a backup but for DR/Firmware/Flash recovery.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 5:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080/4 "2024-11-30T05:56:11Z")

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> [@Dijker](#):
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> only the Homey Cloud Backup is a real Backup

Unless you expect that it will restore the apps and firmware to the point when you created the backup.

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**Author:** ![swenik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/swenik/32/31545_2.png) [@swenik](https://community.homey.app/u/swenik)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080/5 "2024-11-30T15:56:13Z")

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Issue somewhat resolved. I used an UNC-path for my backup, indeed it seems to work, but extremely slowly. **And** , it actually doesn’t work somehow. I chcked the size of the backup file in order to calculate the speed, but today when I checked the file size was zero bytes, and I also had previous 0 bytes backups.  
At the end (after big-button-with-DONE-in-it) there was a file dialogoue, but since I was standing on a ladder I thought I accidently clicked something and select cancel. The probably the file was wiped. Thank you very much for that backup 😉

Today, I stored the backup in c:\   
It was much much much speedier and was done in perhaps 10 minutes.  
To rule out WIFI I then copied the file from C:\ to my Synology NAS. It was done in under 25 seconds, so something like about 38 mb/s.

Conclusion: **do not use an UNC path** when performing a backup.

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**Author:** ![Eric\_UK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eric_uk/32/123478_2.png) [@Eric\_UK](https://community.homey.app/u/Eric_UK)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 8:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080/6 "2025-09-18T08:55:15Z")

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I’d like to follow up on this.

I’m new to Homey, I just have got a Homey Pro. But I have been using HA for many years and obviously it is highly configurable.

One issue I have noticed.

I pay for space with various cloud providers, Google being a big one. Why can’t I use it?  
Why can’t I backup to SMB (which could then go to cloud if I wanted).

I thought the whole point was offline/ local?

Why does that not include backups, a crucial part of maintenance?

I’m certainly not doing this every other day :C

> You’ll have to take your Homey offline(!), turn it upside down, use one hand with the Homey and a paper clip and your other hand hand connecting USB to the computer(!)

Any news on when we might see local backups? I don’t know if I can move over to Homey Pro and away from Home Assistant without that (though there are more features I need to look into).

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 9:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080/7 "2025-09-18T09:02:30Z")

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If you’re looking for a home automation solution that is 100% local, Homey isn’t it.

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**Author:** ![Eric\_UK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eric_uk/32/123478_2.png) [@Eric\_UK](https://community.homey.app/u/Eric_UK)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 9:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080/8 "2025-09-18T09:55:48Z")

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Well, I don’t expect it to be 100%, yet.

But it could be better for certain things, one of which is Backups, that I want to manage myself, or at least choose the destination.

I can’t understand why there’s not a AWS S3 or SMB ‘app’ that allows people to have backups where they want. They can still be encrypted and full OS/ firmware.

I thought that the problem was Athom wouldn’t do it because people might be able to reverse engineer the firmware/ system, but if we can have local backups anyway, then makes no sense to not have those sent to a NAS, rather than have to plug Homey directly into a computer.

😕

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 10:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/local-backup-could-be-improved-like-100x/122080/9 "2025-09-18T10:10:22Z")

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The offline backups are available as a selling point, but in reality they are such a PITA to use that you might think it’s intentional (as not to cut into the paid cloud backup offering).
