# Kitchen light goes of

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [August 23, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255 "2018-08-23T16:41:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/1 "2018-08-23T16:41:15Z")

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Hello All,

I have several spots in my kitchen wich i put on and off thru a fibaro multisensor and a klik aan?uit AWMR23 and also dim. If i walk in the light goes on and shuts off after 10 min. due to the delay set in the off card.  
 ![licht%20aan%20keuken](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/1X/0a51de6b8bd6e77f890655376a64c6a50d478bbf.png) .  
Now when my wife is busy in the kitchen for more than 10 min it goes of again. Now i need something that repeats the flow again when the sensor is triggerd within those 10 mins. Does anybody nows how to do this?

greetz Frans

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/2 "2018-08-23T16:52:53Z")

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I do this in combination with the [Countdown app](https://apps.athom.com/app/nl.bevlogenheid.countdown).  
Make a timer. Then make some flows like:

WHEN motion ends----\>THEN start timer for 10 minutes

WHEN motion—\>THEN stop timer

WHEN timer reaches 0----\>THEN kill the lights

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**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/3 "2018-08-23T16:56:58Z")

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Hee thanks Rocodamelshe i am going to try it!

greetz

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/4 "2018-08-23T17:13:47Z")

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Anytime. Plz let us know if it did work out for u.

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**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/5 "2018-08-23T17:20:36Z")

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it looked easier than it is. i made this but i don’t think it is going to work

 ![PNG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/1X/2591498ce3f688fb739ff6c40733cb0a5250bee6.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/6 "2018-08-23T17:21:33Z")

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U need 3 different flows m8.  
U need to build 3 flows like the 2nd post.

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**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/7 "2018-08-23T17:36:01Z")

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🤣🤣 it looked strange what i had done:rofl:🤣🤣

Okay i made 4 flows now

 ![1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/1X/0407860db5ef6d76cfe15eb644b4fdd9f54ac631.png)

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**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/8 "2018-08-23T17:36:35Z")

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![2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/1X/655f3edb7c786fc742a6d7069948aabf2153d85f.png)

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**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/9 "2018-08-23T17:37:18Z")

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![3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/1X/5682a4b0ce3fafd5dfcb740e68f3b2eccf6f11f3.png)

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**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/10 "2018-08-23T17:38:40Z")

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![4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/1X/e157d12f6c1c8fdaaf2099dd243685c23eb7c254.png)

strange a new user can only upload 1 pic at the time so i need to make four replies 🙄

wil this do the trick

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/11 "2018-08-23T17:54:21Z")

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2 and 3 can be combined. And it’s motion alarm, not sabotage alarm.  
Rest looking good. Maybe, for just testing, delete the middle card in the first flow.

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**Author:** ![Frans\_Keeman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frans_keeman/32/79711_2.png) [@Frans\_Keeman](https://community.homey.app/u/Frans_Keeman)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/12 "2018-08-23T18:12:22Z")

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Ahhh stupid me , again made this mistake sabotage instead of motion grrr.  
Oke changed this and reversed the middle card just for testing. Set the time back to 30 secs to test. Gues what! It works perfectly.

Thank you very much for your help.

greetz  
Frans

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/13 "2018-08-23T18:30:43Z")

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Anytime!

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**Author:** ![Toon\_Vos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@Toon\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Toon_Vos)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/14 "2018-09-02T09:56:24Z")

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IT is possible to do this in 2 flows  
The first to start lights on movement and countdown trigger with a time like 2 minutes.

The second is the flow to kill the lights after the timer is extended if the movement sensor is off and if not start the timer again for 2 minutes

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**Author:** ![Smarthome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/smarthome/32/646_2.png) [@Smarthome](https://community.homey.app/u/Smarthome)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/15 "2018-09-09T07:14:55Z")

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This can be achieved with only two Flows and no Countdown Timer required. I have been running this for a few weeks in my laundry and it has yet to fail (the light stays on when required for as long a someone is in the laundry and turns off soon after).

To achieve this without the Countdown Timer, we simply need to adjust one setting in the Z-Wave MultiSensor…

 ![laundry-multisensor](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/1X/b57eecd6eff80d4a31660c862b23bb56c2035b07.jpeg)

Adjust the Motion Alarm Cancellation setting to how long you would like the light to turn off since motion was last detected.

Note: The image above shows the settings for the Aeotec MultiSensor 6 - This setting is also available for the Fibaro Motion Sensor - however at the time of writing this there is a known issue saving setting changes with this module (I have been assured this will be addressed in V2 release).

The two Flows are then very simple…

One to turn on the light (for me, only if the Lux is below a certain threshold - so it does not turn on when it isn’t needed)…

 ![laundry-on](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/1X/a80d79ffc246e5f8237b1dcf487c6527de8bf8a9.jpeg)

And another Flow to turn the light off (once the Motion Alarm Cancellation time has expired)…

 ![laundry-off](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/1X/b30368acf87e068a677a76fa0aaa1cb23a0cb667.jpeg)

The Motion Alarm Cancellation will reset itself when motion is re-triggered (this is why we don’t need the Countdown Timer).

Now I am in no way suggesting this is the “best” way to achieve this scenario, it’s just another take on a possible solution to the same problem 🤔

One of the things I love about Homey is the fact there are always different ways to achieve the desired result!

I hope this helps 🙂

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**Author:** ![K\_S](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/k_s/32/11635_2.png) [@K\_S](https://community.homey.app/u/K_S)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/16 "2018-12-23T12:19:23Z")

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> [@Toon\_Vos](#):
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> The second is the flow to kill the lights after the timer is extended if the movement sensor is off and if not start the timer again for 2 minutes

Hi - can you show us the flow for this one please, - I can’t follow from the description

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**Author:** ![Toon\_Vos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@Toon\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Toon_Vos)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/17 "2018-12-23T19:36:14Z")

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> **[\[Solved\] Switch off after 60 min no movement](https://forum.athom.com/discussion/3199/solved-switch-off-after-60-min-no-movement#Comment_51732)**
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> I would like to make a flow to turn on and off my devices in the living room.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/18 "2018-12-23T21:03:26Z")

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Sorry, still don’t get it (probably because I don’t speak Dutch) :" If there is movement _and no countdown_" \<–what does that mean?

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**Author:** ![Toon\_Vos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@Toon\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Toon_Vos)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 7:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/19 "2018-12-25T07:51:07Z")

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First Flow  
Trigger motion -  
Then turn on light + start countdown of for example 60 sec

Second flow  
Trigger countdown is finished  
AND motion sensor is off  
Then turn off light  
Else start countdown for 60 sec again

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/kitchen-light-goes-of/255/20 "2018-12-26T11:45:31Z")

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Hi,

I have just used your flows as described, but the lights keeps to shut down while I am in the kitchen?

As I understand, this setup should restart the counter every time the motion alarm sets off, is this right?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/6/6f99cd841ddd7e6be7fa5fc1a0045bc746dba0a8.jpeg)

PS: How long does it take from you save a flow until its live? It seems to me it can take a while before the Homey uses the new details in a flow?

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