# Is there still no local access? (V2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [February 5, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778 "2019-02-05T21:23:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ksolheim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ksolheim/32/7322_2.png) [@ksolheim](https://community.homey.app/u/ksolheim)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/41 "2019-03-11T20:31:45Z")
I also have the issue where the app won’t connect when on the same network. 1. Connect phone to wifi. 2. Open Homey app 3. It will report that Homey is offline. 4. Click retry once or twice and it will connect through cloud. I don’t mind my connection going through the cloud, however it is somewhat annoying going through the retry clicks. ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 7:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/42 "2019-03-12T07:45:21Z")
How are you able to determine that after two/three retries it is going through the cloud? ---
**Author:** ![Canedje](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/canedje/32/8324_2.png) [@Canedje](https://community.homey.app/u/Canedje)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 7:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/43 "2019-03-12T07:46:07Z")
You can check that in setup, general ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 7:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/44 "2019-03-12T07:48:04Z")
Thanks, Sorry not hijacking your topic, I have a similar problem where I have to hit the retry a couple of times. Ill check to see if it is also going to the cloud connection. ---
**Author:** ![Rickp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rickp/32/9466_2.png) [@Rickp](https://community.homey.app/u/Rickp)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 7:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/45 "2019-06-07T07:59:29Z")
Hi. Unfortunately a mouse ate my provider cable so I’m stuck without television and internet for a few days, but also without homey. This is very frustration since I expected certain apps like heimdall and notifications would still work within the same wifi (2.4 ghz) All the flows are working but can’t get any local access. Not through the app, nor web-based on ip or homey.local. I know this was an issue before but thought this was rectified by now. Should local acces work by now or is it stil broken? (this is local acces without any connection to the outside world) ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 10:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/46 "2019-06-07T10:46:52Z")
What kinds of errors are you getting? ---
**Author:** ![Rickp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rickp/32/9466_2.png) [@Rickp](https://community.homey.app/u/Rickp)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 11:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/47 "2019-06-07T11:20:28Z")
In the app I get Homey offline. Going to the ip adres redirects me to [https://go.athom.com/homey-root](https://go.athom.com/homey-root). And a time out. Everything is in the same 2.4 ghz network on the same router. Only thing I can think of is that I use a pi-hole as dns provider, but I’m not yet sure how that would spoil it. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/48 "2019-06-07T13:52:16Z")
I think it’s best to post a support request here: [https://support.athom.com/hc/en-us/requests/new](https://support.athom.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) It _should_ work locally, but I believe that in certain situations, cloud access is still required. ---
**Author:** ![Rickp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rickp/32/9466_2.png) [@Rickp](https://community.homey.app/u/Rickp)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/49 "2019-06-07T15:48:50Z")
Done. Mostly curious if it should work since then its a local issue. Also starting to doubt if auto updates is on. I think it is since I updated from 1.5 to 2. Waited for quite a while to get a stable 2.x. Can’t check now since I can’t access 🤣 running in circles on this point. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/50 "2019-06-07T17:28:54Z")
> [@Rickp](#): > > Mostly curious if it should work since then its a local issue I meant _“it should work according to Athom”_, but that doesn’t mean it _will_ work in all circumstances. Homey’s networking hasn’t been entirely flawless since v2 has arrived. ---
**Author:** ![Rickp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rickp/32/9466_2.png) [@Rickp](https://community.homey.app/u/Rickp)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/51 "2019-09-25T16:46:50Z")
Forgot to add the mail from September second. Athom confirming that local access is not working without active internet connection. > Ik heb je probleem met Development besproken, en er lijkt inderdaad een issue te zitten in het valideren van de inloggegevens als Homey offline is. > > Dit werkt ongeveer als volgt: > > Homey en je smartphone app krijgen als ze met het internet verbonden zijn een token van de server, waarmee je kunt inloggen zonder je inloggegevens te hoeven valideren. Als Homey de toegang tot het internet verliest, blijft deze het oude token gebruiken. Sluit je echter de app op je smartphone helemaal af, vraagt deze een nieuw token van de cloud zodra de app weer wordt gestart. Omdat Homey dit nieuwe token niet kan ontvangen komt dit niet meer overeen, waardoor je verbindingsprobleem ontstaat. > > Het probleem is dus bekend bij Development, en staat op de lijst om gerepareerd te worden. Helaas is er geen verwachte releasedatum voor deze update. > > Mijn excuses voor het ongemak. ---
**Author:** ![Alpol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/alpol/32/9485_2.png) [@Alpol](https://community.homey.app/u/Alpol)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/52 "2019-10-18T07:53:36Z")
October 18 no internet no connection. Wrote to athom half year ago and today. My provider started to update something, and I loosing internet connection quite often. So Athom, your secure connection for local access is useless. Dear athom, more priority for this!!! ---
**Author:** ![heretic1988](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/heretic1988/32/595_2.png) [@heretic1988](https://community.homey.app/u/heretic1988)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 10:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/53 "2019-10-21T10:04:35Z")
I have given up on that. Homey is now an eyecatcher with some cheap moodlights connected to it and that it. I am not trusting my entire home with it. ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/54 "2019-10-21T11:27:19Z")
Only because you have no local access? I only can assume your Homey still does it’s job without Internet, just like everybody else’s does? Or doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 11:36am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/55 "2019-10-21T11:36:09Z")
I guess some people like being able to actually control and manage Homey. ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/56 "2019-10-21T11:48:25Z")
I think Maarten is fully capable of answering my questions on his own without you guessing it, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![heretic1988](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/heretic1988/32/595_2.png) [@heretic1988](https://community.homey.app/u/heretic1988)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/57 "2019-10-21T11:49:57Z")
Yes, I don’t like being held hostage with it. I want to be able to control things myself (Like simply turning off lights when I want them to, not when a specific flow triggers at midnight). Not being dependent on already configured flows. And the fact that this is an issue for a very long time, while being an very essential part of it; gives me no confidence; or incentive to invest my time and effort in it further. (For the record, I bought Homey during the crowdfunding, so I am familiar with how things; and how quick things; are picked up.) ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/58 "2019-10-21T11:50:04Z")
If you want to ask a private question, send a DM. This is a public forum. ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/59 "2019-10-21T11:55:41Z")
Clear, thanks. I myself don’t have the problem of being offline anymore since i changed my internal WiFi network by a mesh system (at least, i really don’t notice it anymore). But it did it’s job perfectly while being offline for short and longer periods, so i am satisfied with that. For most flows i have switches or buttons to manually override. I had a Samsung Smartthings Hub that totally stopped working without internet, even with physical switches. And that is indeed totally unacceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Bart\_Otten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bart_otten/32/16916_2.png) [@Bart\_Otten](https://community.homey.app/u/Bart_Otten)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778/60 "2019-10-24T21:35:02Z")
It does not. Without internet, no local access using the app, no voice control (duhhh) so no light switch for me. Luckily I kept the remotes… Once I have internet, I’ll assign one remote button to a flow to switch all lights. Still, one extra disappointment for this early adopter. One that made my girlfriend anti-Homey 😕 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/is-there-still-no-local-access-v2/8778.md?page=4)