# Irrigation flow tips? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [May 11, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690 "2020-05-11T16:04:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BufferOverflow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bufferoverflow/32/12568_2.png) [@BufferOverflow](https://community.homey.app/u/BufferOverflow)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/1 "2020-05-11T16:04:22Z")
Finally after a long planning (and digging) phase the lawn sprinkler irrigation system is installed and running. I have 4 valves controlled by 2 Fibaro FGS-222 ZWave devices. Everything (except for some slight zwave range issues) seem to work fine so far and i can control valves using both physical push-buttons in the garden and also via the Homey App. Now time for some automation 🙂 Any ideas , tips or tricks for a flow? In my head i am thinking a scheduled start running each valve for X minutes. But it would be great maybe to get some weather data in. I have no weather station (yet) but maybe i can get rain from some online service supported in Homey? Or should i connect a moisture sensor to the flow somehow? Anybody who could share their irrigation flows that i could steal inspiration from? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Marcel\_Ubels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marcel_ubels/32/18860_2.png) [@Marcel\_Ubels](https://community.homey.app/u/Marcel_Ubels)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/2 "2020-05-11T16:08:37Z")
This is way I do it. I have some sensors measuring the dryness of the soil, so that makes it a little easier [https://homey.app/f/tekv48](https://homey.app/f/tekv48) ---
**Author:** ![Marcel\_Ubels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marcel_ubels/32/18860_2.png) [@Marcel\_Ubels](https://community.homey.app/u/Marcel_Ubels)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/3 "2020-05-11T17:56:46Z")
> [@BufferOverflow](#): > > the lawn sprinkler irrigation system is installed and running. I have 4 valves controlled by 2 Fibaro FGS-222 ZWave devices. Are you able to show some pictures off your setup and the way you wired it(220v or 12v). I use a six way semi automatic valve and it works but i am for 90% good with it, but 100% would be nicer. I have six irregation points. Three for my plants and three for my flowers in pots. The plants have a humidity soil sensor and the flowers in pots. I can rain them that way i dividually. ---
**Author:** ![Igy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/igy/32/22144_2.png) [@Igy](https://community.homey.app/u/Igy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/4 "2020-05-11T18:39:51Z")
In my case reliable solution linked to integrated Homey weather service: 1st flow is for rain monitoring in my location. It runs every 10minutes and in case there is a rain, it change “rain delay” variable to Yes and starts timer (24hours). In 95% of cases it detects rain correctly. This way, if its raining several days in a row, timer restarts every 10 minutes and 24hr delay will count from the last moment rain stop. [https://homey.app/f/-zE058](https://homey.app/f/-zE058) 2nd flow changes variable to No, once timer ends (24 hours after raining finished) 3rd flow is simple Irrigation flow, in which I use “rain delay” variable in And condition. [https://homey.app/f/lV2258](https://homey.app/f/lV2258) ---
**Author:** ![BufferOverflow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bufferoverflow/32/12568_2.png) [@BufferOverflow](https://community.homey.app/u/BufferOverflow)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/5 "2020-05-11T20:25:59Z")
> [@Marcel\_Ubels](#): > > This is way I do it. I have some sensors measuring the dryness of the soil, so that makes it a little easier Great, thanks. That was exactly the type of inspiration i was looking for! > [@Marcel\_Ubels](#): > > Are you able to show some pictures off your setup and the way you wired it(220v or 12v). Sure, i use 24V valves. Here are some pictures and a diagram on the wiring from the planning phase. ![20200511_221304](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/b/cb8fd0c5baf9b58c1d7e6a5e1f3221969abcab37.jpeg) ![20200505_162223](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/4/4476aa0fbcf51408e41580c5d469f37a3e5ba841.jpeg) ![20200509_173447](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/b/7b57ac7d42a9cb6d0907b2192bdac9dacb3d856e.jpeg) ![mo_irrigation_v02](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/6/66bf02c0511a582376b78bf4d48a1e0beac943a4.png) ---
**Author:** ![BufferOverflow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bufferoverflow/32/12568_2.png) [@BufferOverflow](https://community.homey.app/u/BufferOverflow)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/6 "2020-05-11T20:35:06Z")
> [@Igy](#): > > 1st flow is for rain monitoring in my location. It runs every 10minutes and in case there is a rain, it change “rain delay” variable to Yes and starts timer (24hours). In 95% of cases it detects rain correctly. That sounds like a really good idea and something i will give a go at least while waiting for a soil-moisture-sensor or weather station. Thanks for sharing! ---
**Author:** ![danone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/danone/32/115743_2.png) [@danone](https://community.homey.app/u/danone)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/7 "2020-05-11T22:30:48Z")
Very nice! Thanks for sharing. I do have same setup just only 3 valves. And no pump, I get the water from the town supply. Same Fibaro double relays and 24VAC valves. Just a tip, thought. Especially that you mentioned some z-wave range issues. Before the antenna mod [Homey antenna mod](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-antenna-mod/2928/26), I also had some range issues with the irrigation double relays. One day the garden irrigation did not stop. Neighbour came to my door as the water started to flood onto the the street. Since then I implemented a couple of things 1/ a second “turn off” in the same flow delayed by 10sec in case first is missed, at least another chance to pick up the second one, and 2/ push up notifications when irrigation starts and then when it stops, this last one can trigger me when I check my phone and see a start but no stop. Wished I would have a soil humidity sensor. However, I do have an industrial flow meter (very compact and free from the company I work with 😉 which gives me a pulse output for each litre of water, and wired into a Fibaro Smart Implant. Then I just feed the amount of water I need depending of the area (garden, lawn, etc). The downside, I had to fit in the enclosure another power transformer as these run on 24VDC. Are those 22mm push buttons on your enclosure for manual control? ---
**Author:** ![Igy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/igy/32/22144_2.png) [@Igy](https://community.homey.app/u/Igy)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 5:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/8 "2020-05-12T05:28:44Z")
> [@danone](#): > > 1/ a second “turn off” in the same flow delayed by 10sec in case first is missed, at least another chance to pick up the second one, There is better and more safe solution for this. Fibaro relay has built in auto off option. Set it to longer time then regular watering time and in case something goes wrong, relay will shut down by its own, no matter the Homey is alive. ![Screenshot_20200512_072505](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/f/2f74d8f2e48c01260305be7d18f504e6137c64b9.jpeg) 6000 represent 10 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![danone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/danone/32/115743_2.png) [@danone](https://community.homey.app/u/danone)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 5:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/9 "2020-05-12T05:34:12Z")
Being using this a lot back when Fibaro HC2 was my controller. Completely forgotten about it, cheers m8! Edit: Just that my lawn watering goes for about 20 mins. Not good for that, however good at least for garden where never irrigation is longer than 5mins ---
**Author:** ![BufferOverflow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bufferoverflow/32/12568_2.png) [@BufferOverflow](https://community.homey.app/u/BufferOverflow)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 6:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/10 "2020-05-12T06:03:28Z")
> [@danone](#): > > Just a tip, thought. Especially that you mentioned some z-wave range issues. Before the antenna mod [Homey antenna mod](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-antenna-mod/2928/26), I also had some range issues with the irrigation double relays. Yes, that antenna mod are on the top of my spare-time-tech-todo list and i actually printed your excellent step-by-step guide yesterday to help with the planning 🙂 You are right, the shutoff must work! What i would not give for 100% reliable zwave… But maybe the AutoOff feature Igy mentioned below combined with notifications will do the trick. > [@danone](#): > > Wished I would have a soil humidity sensor. Yes that seem like a really nice way of doing it. I have a spare Smart Implant that might be perfect for the soil sensor. > [@danone](#): > > I do have an industrial flow meter Ok - that is really cool! I was hoping to have the pump FGS-213 give me the power consumption and (very) roughly translate to amount of water. But that will be more of an indication than anything. Did you implement any way to use compressed air to clean the pipes at the end of the season? Any lessons learnt there? > [@danone](#): > > Are those 22mm push buttons on your enclosure for manual control? Yes, i put in 5 Eaton M22 push buttons where the one for the pump also has a light module. I might add a button to trigger a flow later on. The lesson learnt from indoor lighting is that my wife want physical buttons and not mobile apps… ---
**Author:** ![BufferOverflow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bufferoverflow/32/12568_2.png) [@BufferOverflow](https://community.homey.app/u/BufferOverflow)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 6:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/11 "2020-05-12T06:05:30Z")
> [@Igy](#): > > Fibaro relay has built in auto off option. Set it to longer time then regular watering time and in case something goes wrong, relay will shut down by its own, no matter the Homey is alive. Thanks, that seems like a perfect safety thing. Will try it out! ---
**Author:** ![danone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/danone/32/115743_2.png) [@danone](https://community.homey.app/u/danone)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 7:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/12 "2020-05-12T07:07:29Z")
> [@BufferOverflow](#): > > Yes that seem like a really nice way of doing it. I have a spare Smart Implant that might be perfect for the soil sensor. Unfortunately the Smart Implant humidity is not implemented into Homey. There is here on the forum a thread about it. > [@BufferOverflow](#): > > Did you implement any way to use compressed air to clean the pipes at the end of the season? Any lessons learnt there? Fortunately I have no such need for few reasons 1/ I live in Australia and in winter never drops sub zero so no problem with frozen pipes and 2/ even in winter I water the grass and grow some cold resistant vegetables in the garden hence, there is never end of season for my irrigation 😀 > [@BufferOverflow](#): > > Yes, i put in 5 Eaton M22 push buttons where the one for the pump also has a light module. I might add a button to trigger a flow later on. The lesson learnt from indoor lighting is that my wife want physical buttons and not mobile apps… This is a good idea with manual control the irrigation. Same, my house except one ceiling fan, everything can be controlled from buttons. Since I have no humidity sensor, kind of get around by using my Netatmo rain gauge to figure out if it has or it has not rain and dose my irrigation accordingly, but nothing would beat a humidity sensor. ---
**Author:** ![BufferOverflow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bufferoverflow/32/12568_2.png) [@BufferOverflow](https://community.homey.app/u/BufferOverflow)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/13 "2020-05-12T07:28:24Z")
> [@danone](#): > > Unfortunately the Smart Implant humidity is not implemented into Homey. There is here on the forum a thread about it. Ah - ok. Thanks, found the thread. Typical 🙂 Maybe a Raspberry Pi (or arduino) exposing the humidity as an API which is then read by Homey could do the trick… ---
**Author:** ![Joka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Joka](https://community.homey.app/u/Joka)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 8:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/14 "2020-05-12T08:18:12Z")
> [@BufferOverflow](#): > > Did you implement any way to use compressed air to clean the pipes at the end of the season? Any lessons learnt there? I bought a compressor and pushed the water out of the pipes before winter. Works pretty well. Unfortunately we have tempratues under zero in winter and I have to water my bamboo manually. Maybe a heating system for the pipes would be a good idea in winter 😉 ---
**Author:** ![rampage](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rampage/32/2121_2.png) [@rampage](https://community.homey.app/u/rampage)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 8:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/15 "2020-05-12T08:27:16Z")
Which humidity sensors you guys use? ---
**Author:** ![Marcel\_Ubels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marcel_ubels/32/18860_2.png) [@Marcel\_Ubels](https://community.homey.app/u/Marcel_Ubels)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2020, 8:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/16 "2020-05-12T08:41:32Z")
I use the Gardena sensors, unfortunately you need the hub for it, which is quit expensive. Probably at your guys down under that will not work I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_McGuire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/frank_mcguire/32/39973_2.png) [@Frank\_McGuire](https://community.homey.app/u/Frank_McGuire)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/17 "2020-11-05T10:33:38Z")
> [@BufferOverflow](#): > > Finally after a long planning (and digging) phase the lawn [sprinkler irrigation system](https://www.backyardstyle.com/best-sprinkler-pump/) is installed and running. I have 4 valves controlled by 2 Fibaro FGS-222 ZWave devices. > > Everything (except for some slight zwave range issues) seem to work fine so far and i can control valves using both physical push-buttons in the garden and also via the Homey App. Now time for some automation 🙂 > > Any ideas , tips or tricks for a flow? In my head i am thinking a scheduled start running each valve for X minutes. But it would be great maybe to get some weather data in. I have no weather station (yet) but maybe i can get rain from some online service supported in Homey? Or should i connect a moisture sensor to the flow somehow? > > Anybody who could share their irrigation flows that i could steal inspiration from? > > Thanks! Hello. Have you solved your problem? I have a similar problem so I’m interested in the final decision and results ---
**Author:** ![BufferOverflow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bufferoverflow/32/12568_2.png) [@BufferOverflow](https://community.homey.app/u/BufferOverflow)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/18 "2020-11-07T15:44:50Z")
> [@Frank\_McGuire](#): > > Hello. Have you solved your problem? I have a similar problem so I’m interested in the final decision and results What problem are you having with the irrigation? I must say that for me it worked very well even if the full automation will have to wait until next season. This is what i did: I created a flow structure consisting of: **Flow #1** which turns on the pump, turns on valve1+2 and start a countdown timer for 1h. **Flow #2** which triggers when the countdown timer finishes and that turn off valve 1+2 and start valve 3+4. In addition the same flow stop valve 1+2 again as a backup after 1 minute if the first one missed for some reason. Start an countdown timer again for 1h. **Flow #3** that listens for that countdown timer and turn of valve 3+4 and again after 1minute as a backup if the first one failed. Turn of pump. **Flow #4** time-scheduled flow that triggers flow #1. In the beginning i had it set for two days a week but i actually ended up enabling the flow manually the day before depending on heat/rain etc. This actually worked great during the whole summer. I never got the auto-off behavior of the Fibaros to work reliably. I now have a weather-station installed so the plan for the spring is to include rain sensor values to push schedule forward (as tip from Igy further up in the thread) a day and get it fully automated. Also i will send a command to the automatic lawn-mower to park before starting the sprinklers. ---
**Author:** ![Fekik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fekik/32/34271_2.png) [@Fekik](https://community.homey.app/u/Fekik)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 9:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/19 "2022-09-01T09:00:12Z")
It is showing me the flow in Holland language (I suppose) ☹ I do not understand those flows… ---
**Author:** ![Marcel\_Ubels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marcel_ubels/32/18860_2.png) [@Marcel\_Ubels](https://community.homey.app/u/Marcel_Ubels)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/irrigation-flow-tips/29690/20 "2022-09-01T09:21:51Z")
Can’t share it in another language, made it a longtime ago and deleted it. I now have it as advanced flow, but still most is in Dutch.