# \[Info\] Homey - Homey Bridge - Homey Pro Maximums / Limitations **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** homey, homey-pro, homey-bridge\ **Created:** [September 17, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811 "2021-09-17T15:04:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/21 "2021-09-30T16:59:29Z")
Thanks for checking, Geurt. Well… that’s a bit odd indeed . So the app install routine is not aware of a bridge, and doesn’t say up front, in case of f.i. a zigbee app: “Buy a Bridge now!”, and provide for a direct link to the Athom store to speed up the sales 😁😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mith101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mith101/32/34267_2.png) [@Mith101](https://community.homey.app/u/Mith101)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/22 "2021-10-03T03:11:14Z")
Please explain to me, when one should buy a Pro or the cloud solution with a bridge. I get it that one owns the hardware vs paying a subscription fee but otherwise I cannot see the major difference but that the latter is new technology. ---
**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 6:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/23 "2021-10-03T06:22:13Z")
> [@Homey (cloud / bridge version), a selection of available apps (WIKI)](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-bridge-version-a-selection-of-available-apps-wiki/51520): > > Athom updated the [Homey App Store](https://homey.app/apps/) you can select Homey beta or Homey Pro and when you scroll down, you’ll get the option to filter on platform and category and/or technology (Zigbee, Zwave, RF 433 Mhz, IR, Bluetooth LE, Cloud etc. ) Link: [https://homey.app/en-gb/apps/browse/#filter?platform=cloud](https://homey.app/en-gb/apps/browse/#filter?platform=cloud) Homey beta status: [https://homey.app/en-us/wiki/homey-beta-status/](https://homey.app/en-us/wiki/homey-beta-status/) We decided to create a list of apps. It also shows a quick view of the difference, app wise, between the Home… ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 6:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/24 "2021-10-03T06:51:03Z")
The Cloud/Bridge is an entry-level home automation solution, it works with most popular brands (at least popular in NL/EU) and is cheap. It’s also limited: apps that provide support for local networked devices, or offer useful tools (timers, logging, database support, Homeyscript, Homekit, etc), are not supported by the Cloud/Bridge (and probably will never _be_ supported). There’s also a dependency on a good stable internet connection. If you don’t have one, you may run into automation issues with Cloud/Bridge because nothing is run locally. If you want a (mostly) local solution that supports all Homey apps, you need a Homey Pro. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/28 "2021-10-21T13:49:13Z")
At the Beta status page, the list of available apps has been added [https://homey.app/en-us/wiki/homey-beta-status/](https://homey.app/en-us/wiki/homey-beta-status/) ![Screenshot_20211021-154616_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/2/d273090788091faf3daad25d6924004788fd35a4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mannni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mannni/32/33829_2.png) [@Mannni](https://community.homey.app/u/Mannni)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/29 "2021-11-07T15:28:00Z")
Found a big issue! Maximum number of FlowFolders reached: 50 Very low limit, for infinite flows allowed? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/30 "2021-11-07T18:05:54Z")
> [@Mannni](#): > > Maximum number of FlowFolders reached: 50 > Very low limit, for infinite flows allowed? not sure it is a big issue, as with 50 Flow Folders someone according to Athom probably falls in the Pro users category. Where did you find the _"infinite flows allowed? "_ as I don’t remember where that is said by Athom and I personally also expect that is somewhere limited in Homey (cloud). Have you already reported your Issue to Athom here [The new Homey — Beta Status | Homey](https://homey.app/en-us/wiki/homey-beta-status/) I can confirm that at this moment there is a 50 FlowFolder limit in Homey (cloud) that isn’t in Homey Pro (local) (tested up to 135 folders) I am very curious how you organize your Flows / use FlowFolders > Will move your message as it relates more to the Topic [[Info] Homey - Homey Bridge - Homey Pro Maximums / Limitations](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811) > Also updated the Opening post. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/31 "2021-11-07T19:27:22Z")
> [@Dijker](#): > > Where did you find the _"infinite flows allowed? "_ as I don’t remember where that is said by Athom and I personally also expect that is somewhere limited in Homey (cloud). Where did you find _“only 50 flow folders allowed”_? What other Cloud limits should users expect? - _“The number of characters in a flow name is limited to 13”_? - _“The number of logic variables you can create is 5”_? - _“The “The time is” flow card trigger will always start 59 seconds too late”_ Oh wait, the last one also applies to Homey Pro. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/32 "2021-11-07T22:42:40Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > Where did you find _“only 50 flow folders allowed”_ ? As stated in my opening post, a couple of things are not specified by Athom. For FlowFolders, I Just tested it to confirm it for Homey (cloud) but this limit isn’t in Pro up to my test of ~136 flowfolders. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/0/10f6453009c953a056c561f9c4aa4d8266f2a2ee.png) ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/33 "2021-11-08T08:03:57Z")
> [@Dijker](#): > > As stated in my opening post, a couple of things are not specified by Athom. So it’s perfectly reasonable for people to complain when they find out there’s apparently a limit of 50 flow folders for Homey Cloud. It also doesn’t make any sense to impose such a limit, because flow folders aren’t functional (limiting the number of _flows_ otoh would make more sense, and I’m sure those are also limited, it’s just that no one has hit that limit yet. But these limits should be known to users before they decide to choose Homey Cloud over the Pro). ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/34 "2021-11-08T08:24:07Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > But these limits should be known to users before they decide to choose Homey Cloud over the Pro I hope you directed this to Athom and also send this to them by contacting support or on slack. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/35 "2021-11-08T08:25:16Z")
> [@Dijker](#): > > I hope you directed this to Athom and also send this to them by contacting support or on slack. Why? They are reading this forum to pick up requests, ideas and worries from users, don’t they? [[Info] Ideas / Feature Requests](https://community.homey.app/t/ideas-feature-requests-new-info-2021/41137) ---
**Author:** ![Mannni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mannni/32/33829_2.png) [@Mannni](https://community.homey.app/u/Mannni)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/36 "2021-11-08T08:43:14Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/1/31f381fd9a778ea4c68651849d6f35b3aa38b078.png) I just ran into the limit. Organization is key. I have about 80 devices in my homey cloud/bridge. Not willing to count the number of flows, maybe three in average per device. Zones help a lot by grouping devices. Waiting for more apps published to add more. Of course i reported it, via the beta issue form. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/37 "2021-11-08T09:16:57Z")
> [@Mannni](#): > > Not willing to count the number of flows No need to, just run the example script on the [developer webAPI playground](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/api-playground) ![Screenshot_20211108-101309_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/0/d0e3746981751f5e0af37a6bc9a27e288079167e.jpeg) I had no clue, but I just counted 90 flow-folders on my Pro, with ~500 flows. A max. of 50 folders is a bit low imho. > [@Mannni](#): > > Zones help a lot by grouping devices. Now I’m curious if there’s a zone limit too… ---
**Author:** ![Emile](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/emile/32/115314_2.png) [@Emile](https://community.homey.app/u/Emile)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 10:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/38 "2021-11-08T10:10:28Z")
Hey all! These limits are to be tweaked, and they’re mainly there to prevent programmatic abuse (imagine a misconfigured web api script in a loop). ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/39 "2021-11-08T12:08:29Z")
> [@Emile](#): > > mainly there to prevent programmatic abuse (imagine a misconfigured web api script in a loop). You don’t trust Athom’s own developers? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mannni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mannni/32/33829_2.png) [@Mannni](https://community.homey.app/u/Mannni)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/40 "2021-11-14T14:57:05Z")
Don’t know the new limit but it has been raised, let’s build more. Homey bridge is still great now stress test it even more 😈 ---
**Author:** ![Mattiasjac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mattiasjac/32/48184_2.png) [@Mattiasjac](https://community.homey.app/u/Mattiasjac)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 8:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/41 "2021-12-01T08:35:01Z")
Hi, I have a question regarding homey premium. Can I use 1 premium account for 2 different ”homes” with 1 homey bridge in each home? I sent to use one account for my home incl bridge + summer house incl bridge. ---
**Author:** ![Henning\_Andresen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henning_andresen/32/49120_2.png) [@Henning\_Andresen](https://community.homey.app/u/Henning_Andresen)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/42 "2021-12-19T15:23:46Z")
When will all the APP that is in Homey Pro be avaliable in the Bridge versjon? No the system is useless. I have only Netatmo and HUE that is avaliable. No Mill, Sensibo, Solis, Tibber, BluOS etc etc…. ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811/43 "2021-12-19T15:24:47Z")
> [@Henning\_Andresen](#): > > When will all the APP that is in Homey Pro be avaliable in the Bridge versjon? Not gonna happen. [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811.md?page=3)