# Hue motion sensor missing "THEN" options when using matter

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Tags:** zigbee, flow, matter, hue\
**Created:** [November 20, 2023, 8:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172 "2023-11-20T08:10:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![rizzah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rizzah/32/79804_2.png) [@rizzah](https://community.homey.app/u/rizzah)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 8:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/1 "2023-11-20T08:10:29Z")

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I have added a Hue motion sensor with the Hue app (zigbee) and using matter. I noticed that when creating an (advanced) flow, the sensor added with zigbee is showing me 2 options in a THEN card which the sensor added with matter does not show.

Anyone have any ideas on this?

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 8:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/2 "2023-11-20T08:15:50Z")

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Which options? Which cards?

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**Author:** ![rizzah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rizzah/32/79804_2.png) [@rizzah](https://community.homey.app/u/rizzah)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 9:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/3 "2023-11-20T09:21:44Z")

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These 2 cards when the motion sensor is added over zigbee: I don’t even see the motion sensor added with Matter in the “THEN” field.

 ![Screenshot 2023-11-20 at 10.19.09](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/7/a7abeef6431f04ddee07e06e8bfb11a2f7b3fe90.png)

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 9:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/4 "2023-11-20T09:27:42Z")

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Those cards don’t make sense (how can you turn on a motion sensor from Homey?).

Did you add the sensors as generic Zigbee, or with the “Hue, without the bridge” app?

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**Author:** ![rizzah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rizzah/32/79804_2.png) [@rizzah](https://community.homey.app/u/rizzah)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 10:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/5 "2023-11-20T10:23:29Z")

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I added them using : [Philips Hue App voor Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/nl.philips.hue/Philips-Hue/)

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 10:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/6 "2023-11-20T10:27:09Z")

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Well, like I said, those cards don’t make sense anyway.

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**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 10:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/7 "2023-11-20T10:29:16Z")

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Using the Hue-with-bridge app you can switch a motion sensor on or off (like it’s possible with Hue mobile app, too).

I think that’s a special case in the HueAPI that is not defined/possible with Matter definition.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/8 "2023-11-20T10:30:45Z")

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Ah right, thanks. In that case, it’s only possible when using the Hue API I guess.

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**Author:** ![OH2TH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/oh2th/32/111414_2.png) [@OH2TH](https://community.homey.app/u/OH2TH)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 10:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/9 "2023-11-20T10:33:38Z")

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Yes, I use that also to enable or disable a motion sensor from a flow. I.e. if lights are turned on from hue switches, then I disable motion sensor until the lights are turned off again.

Shame if it missing from the matter device, means that some extra logic needs to be added.

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**Author:** ![EvelynA010](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/evelyna010/32/34938_2.png) [@EvelynA010](https://community.homey.app/u/EvelynA010)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 11:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/10 "2024-10-20T11:19:00Z")

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We’re a year along and I recently switched to Hue via Matter, but it’s ridiculous, that the sensor is not visible using a ‘then’ card… Off course I can use magic to ignore the sensor in another way, but turning it on and off is so much easier.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 11:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/11 "2024-10-20T11:49:45Z")

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> [@EvelynA010](#):
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> We’re a year along and I recently switched to Hue via Matter, but it’s ridiculous, that the sensor is not visible using a ‘then’ card

Turning off sensors isn’t supported by Matter, it’s simply not part of the protocol. And it probably never will be because it doesn’t make sense.

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**Author:** ![EvelynA010](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/evelyna010/32/34938_2.png) [@EvelynA010](https://community.homey.app/u/EvelynA010)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 12:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/12 "2024-10-20T12:04:50Z")

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I have a different opinion. Like when a curtain is moving, because it’s closed and there’s a draft, I just don’t want any flow to be triggered. Off course I’ve solved it now with variables, but a simple ‘turn sensor off’ was much easier.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensor-missing-then-options-when-using-matter/95172/13 "2024-10-20T12:22:08Z")

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I understand that being able to _ignore_ the input of a sensor makes sense, but turning off their reporting doesn’t IMO.
