# Hue bulb without hue hub? **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Created:** [March 10, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394 "2019-03-10T17:03:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Family\_KK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/family_kk/32/8901_2.png) [@Family\_KK](https://community.homey.app/u/Family_KK)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/1 "2019-03-10T17:03:01Z")
Hello As the title suggests, can Homey control Hue stuff without a Hue hub??? Cheers ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_somhorst/32/184_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Somhorst)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/2 "2019-03-10T17:04:32Z")
[yes](https://apps.athom.com/app/com.philips.hue.zigbee) ---
**Author:** ![Family\_KK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/family_kk/32/8901_2.png) [@Family\_KK](https://community.homey.app/u/Family_KK)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/3 "2019-03-10T17:06:26Z")
Thanks. How? I tried to find a bulb and it complained about not having a hue hub. ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_somhorst/32/184_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Somhorst)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/5 "2019-03-10T17:10:05Z")
I think you installed the wrong app. There are two apps currently in the store. One from [Athom](https://apps.athom.com/app/nl.philips.hue) and one from the community. If you want them to control them directly with homey intead of using the hub you need to repair them. Here is how: > Hue lights are also resettable with the round Hue remote (i.e. Living colors gen 2 Remote). Delete the specific light in the official iOS Hue app. Then turn on the power of the specific light. Then press the on button and the one dot button on the remote simultaneously, while holding the remote near the light. The light will blink and has been reset. You can now add the light to Homey. > NOTE: If the bulbs have been used with a bridge, or bought as a package with bridge, prior to connecting them directly to Homey. You will need to reset the bulb with the Philips Hue bridge before being able to add them. You can also reset the bulb with a Philips Hue Remote (8718696743157). ---
**Author:** ![Family\_KK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/family_kk/32/8901_2.png) [@Family\_KK](https://community.homey.app/u/Family_KK)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/6 "2019-03-10T17:11:18Z")
Sorry. I see your reply was a link. Thanks. Trying now 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Family\_KK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/family_kk/32/8901_2.png) [@Family\_KK](https://community.homey.app/u/Family_KK)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/7 "2019-03-10T19:53:19Z")
So I got somewhere, but no functionality. I bought a dimmer / bulb pair off amazon so I can just have a go at the lighting thing. What I found was this: I can pair the bulb and dimmer switch to each other over and again with dimmer resets (setup button pressed for 10 seconds) I can put the dimmer with Homey using the zigbee app but when I go into the device it says “No available controls…” When the dimmer is paired with Homey, I can’t pair it with the bulb. No matter what I do (paired with dimmer or not) I can’t pair the bulb with Homey. Does anyone have any advice please? Many thanks. ---
**Author:** ![KonradWalsh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/konradwalsh/32/147_2.png) [@KonradWalsh](https://community.homey.app/u/KonradWalsh)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/8 "2019-03-10T20:27:52Z")
I believe the dimmer has no options per se. You just use flows to control the actions So add the dimmer to Homey and set a flow to do whatever action you want… That may be on that matching bulb or any other because you are just applying actions through flows. Add the bulb to Homey and then you can pair the flow action to that bulb… ---
**Author:** ![Family\_KK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/family_kk/32/8901_2.png) [@Family\_KK](https://community.homey.app/u/Family_KK)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/9 "2019-03-10T20:31:29Z")
Ah, that makes sense. I guess if I made a flow I would have seen that. The problem I have is I can’t pair the bulb with Homey and if the dimmer is paired with Homey I can’t pair it with the bulb. Catch 22. ---
**Author:** ![KvM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kvm/32/6707_2.png) [@KvM](https://community.homey.app/u/KvM)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/10 "2019-03-11T15:12:00Z")
Did you reset the bulb using the procedure explained in post #2? I did not have any pairing problems with any of my hue bulbs after resetting them ---
**Author:** ![Family\_KK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/family_kk/32/8901_2.png) [@Family\_KK](https://community.homey.app/u/Family_KK)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/12 "2019-03-11T17:44:16Z")
Thanks both for the recent replies. I’ve gone and re read the un-pairing of the bulb and I thought I had the wrong dimmer. Not sure why! Anyway, will try the in pairing procedure tonight and hopefully get it all running. Many thanks ---
**Author:** ![Family\_KK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/family_kk/32/8901_2.png) [@Family\_KK](https://community.homey.app/u/Family_KK)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/13 "2019-03-12T14:53:21Z")
Just to confirm, all sorted. The unpairing procedure via the dimmer switch then sparked the pairing with the Homey into life. Issue resolved. Thanks all for your help. ---
**Author:** ![damo78](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/damo78/32/4574_2.png) [@damo78](https://community.homey.app/u/damo78)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 10:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/14 "2019-03-16T10:48:30Z")
Edit: found these threads that seem to answer my question > [@Starting with Homey - smart bulbs (Philips HUE)+light switch+fibaro dimmer?](https://community.homey.app/t/starting-with-homey-smart-bulbs-philips-hue-light-switch-fibaro-dimmer/3466/5): > > So these 2 reactions made me wonder. What do i actually want rgbw lights for. Do i want that for a full disco party? I probably wont use it for that. Its just for a techy gimmick accent light. So a standing lamp in every corner would be perfect for such usage. I think ill go fibaro all the way like Jamie, with dumb lights in the ceiling and have some hue accent lights that i toggle with a little remote or button, or app ofc. Then i can integrate the aquarium lighting/carbonizing with fibaro s… > [@Fibaro Dimmer 2, Hue and Jung Pulse Switch not working](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-dimmer-2-hue-and-jung-pulse-switch-not-working/8589/7): > > Thanks, all. I’ve ordered the Fibaro Dimmer Bypass 2. When you refer to the dimmer, is this the Hue dimmer switch? I’m planning an experiment to utilise the Fibaro dimmer 2’s that are behind my 3-way momentary switches to see if they’ll work with Hue bulbs in some way so that I can continue my WAF switches on the walls but also have Hue bulbs controlled via Alexa and ‘an app’ for RGB etc. I’m hoping that I’ll be able to keep at least on/off at the wall switch and possibly dimming. But also then have the superb dimming ability of the Hue bulbs, Alexa, and RGB via Homey Knowing that Hue bulbs always need power, I was wondering if anybody had experience of this? I’m presuming the ‘dimmer’ above is a Hue one so might not be the right thread for this ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/15 "2019-03-16T13:20:46Z")
> [@damo78](#): > > I’m planning an experiment to utilise the Fibaro dimmer 2’s that are behind my 3-way momentary switches to see if they’ll work with Hue bulbs in some way so that I can continue my WAF switches on the walls but also have Hue bulbs controlled via Alexa and ‘an app’ for RGB etc. IN my experience, the hue blubs do not like the fibaro dimmers … not at all not recommended, its got to do with the way they (smart bulbs) work. You either need to use a normal bulb with a fibaro dimmer, or you can use a hue bulb with a fibaro dual switch2. ---
**Author:** ![FEY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fey/32/17582_2.png) [@FEY](https://community.homey.app/u/FEY)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/16 "2019-11-17T19:01:44Z")
> [@Jeroen\_Somhorst](#): > > yes Hello! I have bought my first Philips Hue light. It is a “Hue being Lamp” that came with the philips Hue Dimmer Switch. I installed the lamp and it worked out of the box with the dimmer switch it came with. I am trying to add the lamp to Homey using the " Philips Hue ZigBee" but I am not able to put the lamp in learning mode nor I am able to reset it. I have tried this [advice](https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/reset-philips-hue-1565) using the Hue Dimmer Switch but it did not work. Does anyone have any clue on how to add this lamp to my Homey? ---
**Author:** ![FEY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fey/32/17582_2.png) [@FEY](https://community.homey.app/u/FEY)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/18 "2019-11-18T10:07:23Z")
Thanks. That has worked well. However after adding the light to Homey the dimmer Switch became an orphan. I tried pairing it again with the lamp, the latter disconnects from Homey. Is there a way I can have the light controlled via Homey and via the Dimmer Switch? ---
**Author:** ![FEY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fey/32/17582_2.png) [@FEY](https://community.homey.app/u/FEY)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/20 "2019-11-18T11:54:03Z")
@RoyWissenburg. I have added the Hue Dimmer Switch to Homey. I have configured the buttons via a flow. However, I am not able to configure a flow to set the temperature upon pressing multiple times on the ON button (native behavior when the switch is talking directly to the lamp). Do you have a hint? ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/22 "2019-11-18T16:30:42Z")
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**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/24 "2019-11-18T18:51:26Z")
> [@FEY](#): > > I am not able to configure a flow to set the temperature upon pressing multiple times on the ON button You need a variable plus 2 flows Create a variable e.g “Temperature Hue Light” default value = 0 First flow **Flow Temperature +10** ![37](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/4/245382ad714e3587907afa372dfc45a71f3ea60c.jpeg) **When** flow is started **And** Variable “Temperature Hue Light” \<1 **Then** Temperature Hue Light = Temperature Hue Light + 0.1 **Else** Temperature Hue Light = 0 Second flow **When on Temperature +10** ![21](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/d/cd33f5e475fb69169f74cfb59ffe6390620c0675.jpeg) **When** Hue Dimmer pressed On **And** Light is off **Then** switch Light on **Else** set Temperature Light = Variable “Temperature Hue Light” **and** start Flow “Temperature +10” If the light is off, it will be turn on. If its already on you can change the light temperature in 10 step. ---
**Author:** ![FEY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fey/32/17582_2.png) [@FEY](https://community.homey.app/u/FEY)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/25 "2019-11-19T14:38:55Z")
I am having difficulties in using the logic cards as I am using english.This is what I managed to do but I have a feeling that I am not using the right cards… ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/7/777113e17a3aef3cd931c6cec707d84bc3c830e0.jpeg) ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394/26 "2019-11-19T16:17:56Z")
Cards are correct but did u first create the number variable in the “normal” logic settings like @Osorkon explained? Then , at the questionmark in ur example from the first card, u can choose that variable u just made. At the txt box u fill in {{taghere+0.1}} Please do not use spaces here! [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-bulb-without-hue-hub/10394.md?page=2)