# How to use tag as a trigger? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [December 24, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867 "2018-12-24T20:41:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Steve\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steve_t/32/2158_2.png) [@Steve\_T](https://community.homey.app/u/Steve_T)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/1 "2018-12-24T20:41:51Z")
I`m searching the forum but I can`t find an answer. I want to use a tag as a trigger. I know that a tag cannot be a trigger and I should create a variable. How do I set the Variable? I can create one in settings but there is no way to change this value. The tag changes when I enable the Rituals device. So Homey knows when it on or off. How can I link the tag to my self created variable? I`m not able to put the Rituals device in the if colum so that I can set my self created variable via the then colum. Can someone please help me? Kind regards, Steve ![homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/e/ee4f48a80c7b347042b7803d82ef6af1bd1e2d5d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/2 "2018-12-24T20:48:35Z")
> [@Steve\_T](#): > > when I enable the Rituals device That’s the moment to set a Better Logic variable. After that use that specific variable in the IF colom. The tag ur using in the IF colom at the moment is not a Better Logic variable, u have to create that urself. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steve_t/32/2158_2.png) [@Steve\_T](https://community.homey.app/u/Steve_T)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/3 "2018-12-24T20:54:00Z")
I’m not able to use the rituals device in the if colum. If was able to do that then I could set a value for the better logic variable. ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/4 "2018-12-24T21:55:07Z")
So, how u activate the rituals then? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steve_t/32/2158_2.png) [@Steve\_T](https://community.homey.app/u/Steve_T)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/5 "2018-12-24T22:05:09Z")
I am able to activate rituals via the then colum in flows. (So here I am able to set the better logic variable) But if I manually enable rituals (via devices) I am not able to set the variable. Same thing when I enable rituals via their own rituals app. ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/6 "2018-12-24T22:15:15Z")
> [@Steve\_T](#): > > I am able to activate rituals via the then colum in flows. Very nice and that’s the only way ofc. Mine is set when the misses comes home and de-activated after 20 minutes. It’s all about automation. ---
**Author:** ![bvdbos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bvdbos/32/2352_2.png) [@bvdbos](https://community.homey.app/u/bvdbos)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/7 "2018-12-25T06:43:08Z")
Don’t know if the rituals-device reports it’s state back to Homey? Does the other way around work? When you start the device through Homey, do you see it’s started on your phone? ---
**Author:** ![Jan\_Peeters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jan_peeters/32/86660_2.png) [@Jan\_Peeters](https://community.homey.app/u/Jan_Peeters)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/8 "2018-12-25T08:57:09Z")
Same here, I want to use a tag as a trigger as well. If this would be possible, a presense detector (aqara body sensor) could be used to switch lights on AND off using only one single flow (below). Is this possible? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/2/2df15cfe509e48e05efb062032f6655c3d417f7d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steve_t/32/2158_2.png) [@Steve\_T](https://community.homey.app/u/Steve_T)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/10 "2018-12-25T09:24:34Z")
Homey knows the state even when I don’t use homey to put te rituals on. So Homey has the information but I am not able to use that. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steve_t/32/2158_2.png) [@Steve\_T](https://community.homey.app/u/Steve_T)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/11 "2018-12-25T09:25:33Z")
And also yes, when I start the device via Homey, I can see it as on in the original rituals app ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/12 "2018-12-25T09:38:35Z")
> [@Steve\_T](#): > > I want to use a tag as a trigger. So u want a tag as a trigger and > [@Steve\_T](#): > > I know that a tag cannot be a trigger Then u should make a request for a “a tag has changed” card in the IF colom. Requests can be made [here.](https://support.athom.com/hc/requests/new) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_T](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steve_t/32/2158_2.png) [@Steve\_T](https://community.homey.app/u/Steve_T)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/13 "2018-12-25T09:56:12Z")
Thanks everybody. Now I know that what I want is not possible. Even if Homey has the information. I will put in a request. Cheers and a merry christmas! ---
**Author:** ![Jan\_Peeters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jan_peeters/32/86660_2.png) [@Jan\_Peeters](https://community.homey.app/u/Jan_Peeters)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-use-tag-as-a-trigger/5867/14 "2018-12-25T22:14:17Z")
Ow you’re so cute. You’ve read it but decided to start a new thread anyway. Did you feel as if there has been given an answer to the question on how to start /stop a flow using a tag as a trigger? To me, this feels as something obvious that has been forgotten when developing Homey. Just my 2CTS. Your and my comments are just pollution on an otherwise great source of information 👍