# How to see if Hue devices are controlled using Matter? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** homey-pro, homey-pro-2023, matter, hue\ **Created:** [September 20, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835 "2023-09-20T19:51:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/21 "2023-11-03T13:44:19Z")
> [@JaccoStraaijer](#): > > I think the original Homey Hue app communicates throught the official HUE cloud integration to the bridge (so over internet). No, the app uses a local connection when running on Homey Pro. > [@](#): > > then Matter: direct connection to the bridge from Homey, responsive and the original HUE functionality like scenes and e.g. for now Ambilight+HUE for Philipps TV’s are available throught the HUE app. Another upside of using Matter instead of the proprietary API to talk with the Hue bridge is that Homey’s implementation of the latter is based on polling, which means that it may take (up to) 2 seconds before Homey knows that a device state has changed. With Matter, state updates will be (nearly) realtime. ---
**Author:** ![JaccoStraaijer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jaccostraaijer/32/11777_2.png) [@JaccoStraaijer](https://community.homey.app/u/JaccoStraaijer)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/22 "2023-11-08T08:29:47Z")
> [@Add Philips Hue devices using Matter, not working](https://community.homey.app/t/add-philips-hue-devices-using-matter-not-working/89818/58): > > As of Homey firmware 10.1.0-RC4 matter buttons are working now. I checked the Hue buttons I have. Working like a charm via Homey now! Almost instant reaction from the Hue tap switch! Much better performance than via the HUE app. I will continue to test other buttons. UPDATE: reading through the release notes this update should also fix the issues people had with lots of hue devices connected to one bridge? Unfortunately I do not have so many connected devices to mij bridge. So unable to test. ---
**Author:** ![Jumpingtrees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jumpingtrees/32/79538_2.png) [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/23 "2023-12-10T08:16:04Z")
With the newest Homey Pro Update to 10.1.4 it seems to work now. I get the camera screen to scan a barcode or click on “other options / without barcode” (I do not now the exact English translation as I am using Homey in German. That is great. 🙂 Anyhow, I am still not able to add Matter devices from my bridge. I have a lot of Hue devices (44) and I remember reading about a bug that prevents adding a Hue bridge with a lot of devices. In the process Homey seemed to detect the Hue bridge (a dedicated Hue bridge screen with showed up), but then I got a timeout. The error message wasn’t really helpful. So I tried a second bridge that I have, but is not in use. Reset, adding to the network, added two Hue play to it, checked that everything is working well in the Hue app, created the Matter code and tried to add this bridge to Homey using Matter. The same happened as before. Did anybody successfully added a Hue bridge with so many devices, using an Android smartphone via Matter to Homey? ---
**Author:** ![Jumpingtrees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jumpingtrees/32/79538_2.png) [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/24 "2024-01-14T13:30:19Z")
Short update on my Hue+Matter issues: With the newest firmware 10.2.1 I was able to add my Hue devices via Matter. A first round of testing went well. Responsiveness is much faster (which was expected due to the non-existing 2s polling delay). I’ve encountered that temperature readings from the motion sensors are missing the decimal places, but I will open a new topic for that. > [@Hue motion sensors temperature readings missing decimal places](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensors-temperature-readings-missing-decimal-places/101120): > > Hello, I’ve recongized that the motion sensores from Hue are missing the decimal places when added through Matter. Devices added by the Homey Hue app have two decimal places. See screenshot below. [image] Anybody else having that behaviour? Is this a feature or considered a bug? ---
**Author:** ![Rrrr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rrrr/32/629_2.png) [@Rrrr](https://community.homey.app/u/Rrrr)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/25 "2024-01-15T13:05:17Z")
> [@Hue motion sensors temperature readings missing decimal places](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-motion-sensors-temperature-readings-missing-decimal-places/101120/1): > > Hue are missing the decimal places I did my migration today also on 10.2.1 and see the same for temperature but luminance is fine. I will upgrade to Experimental updates and see if it is the same for v10.3.x Question: did you re-install the Homey Hue app after migrating to Matter? That’s nice to know ---
**Author:** ![Jumpingtrees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jumpingtrees/32/79538_2.png) [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/26 "2024-01-15T18:25:06Z")
No, I did not re-install the Hue app. In fact I did not touch the Hue app at all. I did removed all devices that I do not need to control through the Hue app anymore afterwards. I know that in the forum it is recommended to deinstall the Hue app, add then Hue devices through Matter, and then add devices through the Hue app if needed. I do miss some devices, maybe that is the reason why, but I do not know. > [@Hue devices missing when added through Matter](https://community.homey.app/t/hue-devices-missing-when-added-through-matter/101126): > > Hello, playing around with Hue devices added through Matter I’ve noticed that three devices, all outdoor pedestals, are missing after I’ve added the Hue bridge via matter. I am a bit reluctant to re-add the bridge using the pairing code provided by the Hue bridge. Don’t know exactly, just want to avoid messing up anything. slight_smile Did somebody experienced missgin devices after the Hue bridge was added through Matter? Can I “re-add” the Hue bridge? After all that brings me to the questi… ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_W](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erik_w/32/81557_2.png) [@Erik\_W](https://community.homey.app/u/Erik_W)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/27 "2024-01-15T19:24:53Z")
Hi, I’m al bit new here. I will explain my situation and I hope somebody can help. I now have al my bulbs via the Philips Hue app connected via the Hue bridge. All is working very well now, but actualy I want it via Matter. Can somebody explain me step by step what I have to do? And hopefully not to add all my bulbs again in all of my flows? I appreciate your help. ---
**Author:** ![Jumpingtrees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jumpingtrees/32/79538_2.png) [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/28 "2024-01-15T19:53:34Z")
If you are only using light bulbs I would recommend not to switch to Matter. There is, from my perspective, no real benefit. If you are using switches or motion sensors they will be more responsive with Matter. You need to add the Hue bridge through the Homey app on your smartphone. The web app is not supported, yet. I am using the newest experimental firmware so you will only have the “Android” option to connect Matter devices. Then you need to choose the option “without QR code” and insert the pairing code you will get from the Hue app. You need to add all your bulbs again in your flows as these are essentially new devices for Homey. So, if you do not have a real use case, or like to play around with experimental features you do not need to add the Hue bridge as a Matter node. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/2/32fd90d207c5b8069241ab56c26b078f2b1de761.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/d/ad973c8db826b906a9580591c7e1f7e8492df37e.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/2/32fd90d207c5b8069241ab56c26b078f2b1de761.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rrrr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rrrr/32/629_2.png) [@Rrrr](https://community.homey.app/u/Rrrr)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/29 "2024-01-15T20:40:08Z")
Here’s some steps: [Add Philips Hue devices using Matter, not working - #74 by Rrrr](https://community.homey.app/t/add-philips-hue-devices-using-matter-not-working/89818/74) Going to matter won’t hurt but if you used hue devices in your flows then you’ll need to redo those. Take a lot of screen shots or before you migrate, change the devices to virtual devices, groups, or advanced devices that will require less work afterwards. Or use zones instead of devices. > [@Add Philips Hue devices using Matter, not working](https://community.homey.app/t/add-philips-hue-devices-using-matter-not-working/89818/74): > > Moving to Matter with 3x Philips Hue bridges using iPhone (the menu in the Hue bridge app for Android works different) and Home Assistant. I am preparing the move, but got lost in the many different articles. Philips bridges can do Matter and only require re-registering each Bridge to Homey after which all (or most) Philips bridge connected devices should show up. Steps for Hue bridges: Optional upgrade [HP2023 to 10.3.x](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/9075551662108-Matter-Beta-for-Homey-Pro-Early-2023-) (experimental) that provides web enabled capability for the move. I used… ---
**Author:** ![Rrrr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rrrr/32/629_2.png) [@Rrrr](https://community.homey.app/u/Rrrr)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/30 "2024-01-15T20:41:39Z")
> [@Rrrr](#): > > same for v10.3.x No luck it’s the same ---
**Author:** ![Rrrr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rrrr/32/629_2.png) [@Rrrr](https://community.homey.app/u/Rrrr)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/31 "2024-03-28T14:18:28Z")
Athom support update on the lack of decimals for temperature in Hue motion devices connected through Matter: > Hello again 🙂, I have taken a look too see if I can do anything about the temperature sensors lacking decimals. Sadly, Hue only seems to report rounded temperature readings through Matter. Nothing I can do here. If you want to get this fixed, you’ll have to ask Hue… But if you re-install the (non Matter) official Phlips Hue app for Homey, then you (can selectively) increase the number of sensors but at lease those will show decimals in temperature. Keep the Matter sensors for speedy motion response and use the non Matter ones for temperature readings if it is important to you to have decimals. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![markusv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/markusv/32/34227_2.png) [@markusv](https://community.homey.app/u/markusv)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/32 "2024-05-01T08:54:58Z")
Hi everyone. I have the homey hue app and a lot of lights. Yesterday some of the lights and switches stopped working. Error message is “cannot find device undefined in hue v2 api”. Might that be due to some problems with matter? Has the hub switched some of them to use matter maybe? Is there a way to check if my hue hub uses matter to communicate with the lights? I am on the version 6.1.8 of the homey hue app Regards, Markus ![IMG_5426](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/6/667455e4712b9ce26c78ffda4c462b88e3f0c388.png) ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 10:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/33 "2024-05-01T10:52:10Z")
> [@markusv](#): > > Might that be due to some problems with matter? No. > [@](#): > > Has the hub switched some of them to use matter maybe? No. > [@](#): > > Is there a way to check if my hue hub uses matter to communicate with the lights? If you didn’t _explicitly_ set up Matter support on your Hue hub (and afterwards imported all your devices explicitly over Matter to Homey), you’re not using Matter. Athom just broke the app, you have to wait for a new stable to be released [or install the current test version](https://homey.app/en-nl/app/nl.philips.hue/Philips-Hue/test/) which supposedly fixes it. ---
**Author:** ![markusv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/markusv/32/34227_2.png) [@markusv](https://community.homey.app/u/markusv)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 11:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/34 "2024-05-01T11:34:32Z")
Thanks for the quick reply! Athom just emailed me actually. They released a new test version of the app which fixed my problem! ---
**Author:** ![Monit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/monit/32/79472_2.png) [@Monit](https://community.homey.app/u/Monit)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/35 "2024-05-04T08:47:36Z")
Just found this thread that shows the same error message I started to receive as well (Cannot find device41 In Hue V2 API). I actually emailed Homey support and they just said I should reinstall the app. They didn’t even mention there is a new version that will fix this. Which is odd. You would think that support would know that. But good that the community forum is here. ---
**Author:** ![Rrrr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rrrr/32/629_2.png) [@Rrrr](https://community.homey.app/u/Rrrr)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 7:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/36 "2024-05-07T07:22:56Z")
> [@Rrrr](#): > > temperature sensors lacking decimals Solved with a firmware update on Hue ---
**Author:** ![Jumpingtrees](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jumpingtrees/32/79538_2.png) [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 10:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835/37 "2024-05-07T10:27:17Z")
Thanks for the info. I can confirm that! 🙂 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-see-if-hue-devices-are-controlled-using-matter/89835.md?page=1)