# How many devices and scenes can be used in Athom Homey Pro (2023)? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** homey-pro\ **Created:** [January 2, 2023, 9:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460 "2023-01-02T09:44:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/per_arne_bakken/32/57231_2.png) [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://community.homey.app/u/Per_Arne_Bakken)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 9:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/1 "2023-01-02T09:44:21Z")
Hi, I have been using Fibaro Home Center 3 for a couple of years, but this hub is not stable enough for my use and it is not possible to add enough devices and scenes to this device. So, by searching on the web I found that Homey will introduce a new Athom Homey Pro (2023) during the first quarter of this year and it looks interesting. But, I need some information about this hub before I buy it: -How many Z-Wave devices can be controlled? -How many ZigBee devices can be controlled? -How many devices in total can be controlled? -How many scenes can be set up? What I am looking for is a hub that can control a minimum of 250 different devices and at least 100 scenes - and the hub must be stable. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 10:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/2 "2023-01-02T10:50:05Z")
> [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](#): > > What I am looking for is a hub that can control a minimum of 250 different devices and at least 100 scenes Aside from the new Homey not yet being available (so all we can do is guess), even the current Homey should be able to handle 250 different devices. The main limiting factor is not so much the number of devices but the actual workload (how often device states change and need to be changed, number of flows, what those flows actually do, etc). No one can give you a definitive answer about that because it’s unique to your situation. Also, what exactly do you mean by scenes? Per device? Per group of devices? Zigbee scenes? > [@](#): > > and the hub must be stable Impossible to comment on, since the new Pro isn’t available yet. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 11:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/3 "2023-01-02T11:03:46Z")
What Robert says 🙃 What I wrote in the meantime: Here’s all ins and outs: > [@The new Homey Pro — Ask Me Anything](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/8): > > Hey Emile, In the [Device Capabilities App voor Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/nl.qluster-it.DeviceCapabilities/Device-Capabilities/) users can create [Advanced Virtual Devices](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-advanced-virtual-device-device-capabilities-app-with-unique-text-status-indicator/68198) for which they can set custom icons for the devices and also for the capabilities(!). With the upcoming new Homey Pro, i need to find a way for users to migrate. But the current device and capabilities icon paths refer to the /userdata folder. Question: How can i facility a migration to the new environment for the DC app? Seeing how many users have this app installed in the recent months that the… > [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](#): > > -How many Z-Wave devices can be controlled? In case of Z-wave & Zigbee: I haven’t read about any real life tests with Homey 2023, so there’s no real life numbers yet, I think. Athom didn’t publish numbers about this yet. In theory it would be the z-wave max for one controller = 232 devices. > [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](#): > > -How many ZigBee devices can be controlled? We all hope it is more than the Homey models up 'til now, which is the adviced 30 to 40, with an exceptional reported 50 to 60 nodes. The 2023 zigbee chip is different than the ‘old’ one. > [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](#): > > -How many devices in total can be controlled? In theory unlimited, but remember switching many devices, which use the same radio technology, _at once_, can be limited to a certain number, which depends on your setup, networks and radio signals. This also has to be tested in real life situations first. > [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](#): > > -How many scenes can be set up? Unlimited in theory. > [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](#): > > What I am looking for is a hub that can control a minimum of 250 different devices and at least 100 scenes - and the hub must be stable. That should be possible. About stability: there’s no customer real life experience yet, but I expect it to be pretty stable, combined with the ethernet connection. It depends on what the owner is (not) up to, the combined brands and radio´s, how the flows (what you call scenes) are designed. Athom is pretty active in solving issues for the current Homey, and (free) firmware updates are still published every now and then, and sometimes even extra features. Conclusion: take the ‘risk’, or just wait for a few months, until users have published their experiences and issues with the 2023 model. ---
**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 11:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/4 "2023-01-02T11:08:37Z")
At the moment I am working with a combination of Homey and Home Assistant. Home Assistant is mainly used to import various entities into Homey. Furthermore, the Conbee 2 stick works as another device and pumps about 100 Zigbee devices into Homey. All in all, Homey has to manage almost 300 devices/entities and execute almost 650 flows. Since the new Homey is more powerful and has more memory, the numbers you are aiming for should not be a problem. We will see how stable the new Homey is as soon as the first devices are in operation. ---
**Author:** ![Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/per_arne_bakken/32/57231_2.png) [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://community.homey.app/u/Per_Arne_Bakken)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/5 "2023-01-02T11:22:20Z")
Thanks a lot for your input. I mentioned “scenes” as this is what it is called by Fibaro. I guess it is the same as “flows” in Homey. I was thinking of a group of devices that have dependencies set up - resulting in some kind of action. E.g. the heating of the living room starts if the temperature is below X°C, in a given time window, and without the heat pump working. ---
**Author:** ![Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/per_arne_bakken/32/57231_2.png) [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://community.homey.app/u/Per_Arne_Bakken)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 11:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/6 "2023-01-02T11:24:32Z")
Hi @Peter_Kawa and @Undertaker, Thanks a lot for your information. I must admit that the new Homey Pro looks very interesting and I will probably give it a try. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 11:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/7 "2023-01-02T11:27:14Z")
Fibaro uses confusing terminology: what you are describing are automations, which indeed is the same as flows in Homey (in most home automation systems, scenes are “stored devices states”, either for a single device or a group of devices, which you can later recall; Homey doesn’t have this feature out of the box). ---
**Author:** ![Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/per_arne_bakken/32/57231_2.png) [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://community.homey.app/u/Per_Arne_Bakken)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/8 "2023-01-02T11:29:43Z")
Aha! Thanks a lot for clearing this up. Sorry about this confusion. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/9 "2023-01-02T11:44:14Z")
Besides standard functionality, there’s an app (or similar apps) for many things. Like storing and recalling states of ‘zones’ (all things you gather, like rooms). Then you can call saved states for work light, evening light, movie light, including the music or TV set, thermostat, whatever you paired with Homey. > **[Zone Memory](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.sdn.zone-memory/Zone-Memory/)** > > Save and restore settings of devices or whole zones It is not the only way, it is also possible to create those states/scenes using flows. ---
**Author:** ![Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/per_arne_bakken/32/57231_2.png) [@Per\_Arne\_Bakken](https://community.homey.app/u/Per_Arne_Bakken)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/10 "2023-01-02T12:40:57Z")
This sound very interesting. 😀 It looks like the Homey system is very flexible and I must admit that I regret not starting to use this system instead of the Fibaro system. I have spent countless hours keeping the Fibaro system up and running over the last couple of years, and now I am fed up with all this work as it crashed completely on December 23. I am really looking forward to starting using something that is working as announced and is stable. ---
**Author:** ![LionelDerBoven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/lionelderboven/32/121059_2.png) [@LionelDerBoven](https://community.homey.app/u/LionelDerBoven)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-many-devices-and-scenes-can-be-used-in-athom-homey-pro-2023/74460/11 "2025-05-29T17:34:04Z")
And? Do you like the homey? Still using it? 🙂