# How community developers get awarded by Athom

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355>\
**Category:** Developers\
**Created:** [January 5, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355 "2019-01-05T20:49:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/42 "2019-01-11T15:37:24Z")

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I created a topic in which I humbly ask Homey users to make donations to buy a development/test Homey.

> [@Developer asking for donations from Homey users](https://community.homey.app/t/developer-asking-for-donations-from-homey-users/6625/2):
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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/44 "2019-01-11T17:40:39Z")

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The question from the OP still stands tho.

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/45 "2019-01-11T18:16:20Z")

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> **[Top five Community Apps - Athom Blog](https://blog.athom.com/top-five-community-apps/)**
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> Unleash Homey's power by installing Apps on Homey. We build some Apps ourselves, but most Apps are made by our community. View our five favorite Community Apps of 2018.

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**Author:** ![Rickp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rickp/32/9466_2.png) [@Rickp](https://community.homey.app/u/Rickp)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/46 "2019-01-11T18:39:24Z")

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Just wanted to post the same. Funny thing going one. Promoting on one side but lacking some nurturing on the other side

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/47 "2019-01-11T18:44:50Z")

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At least they now acknowledge community apps and the developers this way 👍

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**Author:** ![glenn\_clough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/glenn_clough/32/9666_2.png) [@glenn\_clough](https://community.homey.app/u/glenn_clough)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/48 "2019-01-11T19:53:48Z")

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Out of the top 5 apps, how many can you still install on version 2?  
i see two that are not compatible… and are just grayed out

I appreciate a lot how much effort developers put in to their apps (and i know Athom do too), I would happily donate a “coffee” to the developers that i use apps for, from the outside tho it looks, things look like this at times  
user finds a issue --\>  
reports it to the developer --\>

then

- developer puts some time in and fixs the issue (yay)
- you find out the app is abondonware
- developer says they are waiting for Athom to fix a “thing” and its been waiting over a year now

From a user point of view, the app store should time stamp updates for all apps, and make release/change notes mandatory.

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**Author:** ![Xtasy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xtasy/32/12671_2.png) [@Xtasy](https://community.homey.app/u/Xtasy)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/49 "2019-01-11T20:09:05Z")

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How can they promote LED Ring collection when it isn’t even compatible with 2.0?

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/50 "2019-01-11T20:12:08Z")

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> [@Gruijter](#):
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> View our five favorite Community Apps of 2018.

Just a matter of what u wanna read @Xtasy

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/51 "2019-01-11T22:15:29Z")

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And the developer just made the led ring collection app compatible with 2.0, just waiting approval. Cheers @OpenMind_NL!

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/52 "2019-01-12T07:08:45Z")

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Good way for Athom to “persuade” developers to move their app to v2: publish it in a top 5 and sit back to see the developer get flooded with reports that their app isn’t v2-compatible 😑

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**Author:** ![David\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_k/32/10319_2.png) [@David\_K](https://community.homey.app/u/David_K)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/53 "2019-01-12T12:50:47Z")

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> [@Dabon](#):
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> For an example, if @TedTolboom stopped his developement, removed the apps from the app store, or simply just stopped updating/maintaining his apps, it would impact my system to the point where I would consider other systems. I wouldnt be able to control any of my thermostats, AC, Xiaomi devices, door locks and so on.

I fully agree with what you wrote. Extreme appreciation for @TedTolboom even thou I’m not that dependent on his apps like you are (I posses only one remotec device) I can imagine how big impact his apps have on the prospective and current user base of Homey. I must say that my paranoia is keeping me from using more community developed apps but if I give in it will most likely be Xiaomi and I would definitely accept paying some amount for the app itself.

@Bram Are you a bit afraid of @TedTolboom. 😀😀😀😀

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/54 "2019-01-12T12:54:28Z")

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Since all community apps are open source, you can fork the respective repositories and update them regularly. In the case where a developer decides to remove their apps from the app store (although personally, I think that Athom should never accept any requests from developers to remove their apps from the app store; the app was published _by the developer_ with an open source licence that allows Athom to keep publishing it), you will at least have the opportunity to sideload the app using the command line installation tool.

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**Author:** ![Xtasy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xtasy/32/12671_2.png) [@Xtasy](https://community.homey.app/u/Xtasy)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/55 "2019-01-12T13:37:54Z")

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> [@robertklep](#):
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> Since all community apps are open source, you can fork the respective repositories and update them regularly.

But then again if you don’t know how to update the respective repositories you will have to rely on another dev. Its an endless circle.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/56 "2019-01-12T14:01:36Z")

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Agreed, it’s not a simple solution ☹

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**Author:** ![jreenen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jreenen/32/811_2.png) [@jreenen](https://community.homey.app/u/jreenen)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/57 "2019-01-12T15:44:02Z")

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You can always ask another developer to adopt the poorly orphaned app 😉

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**Author:** ![Davy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/davy/32/12519_2.png) [@Davy](https://community.homey.app/u/Davy)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/58 "2019-01-13T08:03:37Z")

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Yesterday I made a fix for using IKEA rgb bulbs in the Hue app (made by Athom), after creating the [pull request](https://github.com/athombv/nl.philips.hue/pull/108) I was presented a legal agreement what I need a lawyer for to understand. A developer Code of Conduct would be ok to sign, but this is quite some strange appreciation from Athom if you ask me…

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/f/f1851d93f317b0f8253b7e9b9a20909e7d9bc9e4.png)

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 8:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/59 "2019-01-13T08:34:54Z")

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I sometimes get the feeling that Athom considers community developers to be an adversarial bunch that they, and the users, need to be protected from ☹

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/60 "2019-01-13T09:52:37Z")

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Before that also this ball is being pushed the wrong way.

Athom is _forced_ to take this route, because of real legality reasons they had in the past.  
Even some community developers needed to add a license to their own open source app for this same reason.

But if you don’t like it, you don’t have to sign off course.

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**Author:** ![bvdbos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bvdbos/32/2352_2.png) [@bvdbos](https://community.homey.app/u/bvdbos)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 9:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/61 "2019-01-13T09:57:44Z")

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To add on that: There have been some devs in the past, before this was in place, who deleted their repo’s and forced Athom to pull the apps from the store so people were left with less functionality… So I have no problem with it… Other agreements with Athom are possible but for that you have to contact them…

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 10:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/how-community-developers-get-awarded-by-athom/6355/62 "2019-01-13T10:03:59Z")

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> [@Another developer ask the community for support](https://community.homey.app/t/another-developer-ask-the-community-for-support/6689/6):
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> Donated! BUT… I think what is happening here is more proof that a sustainable solution is needed to help out community developers. Tomorrow the next developer will ask the same, and the day after another… The donations are heartwarming, but is donated by a relative small group of people who care. In my opinion there are a number stakeholders that benefit from the work of community developers: The developer himself, since it is his hobby App users, since they get more value out of their purc…

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