# Homey / ZWave not using Nodes

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [October 23, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396 "2020-10-23T15:09:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Felix\_Lorang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/felix_lorang/32/29400_2.png) [@Felix\_Lorang](https://community.homey.app/u/Felix_Lorang)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/1 "2020-10-23T15:09:15Z")

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Hi, I have serious connection issues with my homey, as you can see, several devices are not or only from time to time responive. However, none of my devices use additional nodes, all connect directly to homey. I even got some fibaro wall plugs as repeater, but even those are not used as nodes/repeater.  
Is there a way to “force” a rerouting (as I understand it, there is not, but I don’t want to lose my last hope.) or is there a setting, that forbids using of nodes, which I missed?  
[Bildschirmfoto 2020-10-23 um 16.57.04|690x228](https://community.homey.app/uploads/short-url/sv5zYYWUJ9AoThVQ0qGlGR2Qfqi.png)

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Lorang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/felix_lorang/32/29400_2.png) [@Felix\_Lorang](https://community.homey.app/u/Felix_Lorang)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/3 "2020-10-23T15:24:47Z")

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> [@RoyWissenburg](#):
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> You did a PTP ofcourse?

That was Homeys daily routine today, several times. 🙂

> [@RoyWissenburg](#):
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> Just wondering witch devices are routers in the picture you provide?

“routers” for the WLAN? or for z-wave?

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Lorang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/felix_lorang/32/29400_2.png) [@Felix\_Lorang](https://community.homey.app/u/Felix_Lorang)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/5 "2020-10-23T16:05:23Z")

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Hi, the “router” are not shown here and are 2 fibaro Wahl plugs. Sorry, if I am a bit slow here.

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/7 "2020-10-23T16:42:56Z")

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Which thermostats do you use? Do they run on battery?

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Lorang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/felix_lorang/32/29400_2.png) [@Felix\_Lorang](https://community.homey.app/u/Felix_Lorang)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/8 "2020-10-23T16:51:14Z")

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Sorry, I am new to this thing and it worked before already, so I wanted to show that all devices are directly connected (not via MESH), but it worked via mesh before (and before having the fibaro wall plugs - which use battery/). I just took all my fibaro heat controller to the homey and now the z-wave doesn’t work anymore as before. I have smoke detectors (also fibaro) in every room which are connected without any issue.  
The type of house is an old 2 storey building (19th century).

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/9 "2020-10-23T17:08:34Z")

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> [@Felix\_Lorang](#):
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> and before having the fibaro wall plugs - which use battery

Now I am confused too.  
2 WallPlugs as only repeaters are of course clearly too few.

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**Author:** ![Igy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/igy/32/22144_2.png) [@Igy](https://community.homey.app/u/Igy)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/10 "2020-10-23T17:11:40Z")

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First include all Fibaro devices in unsecure mode. Search forum on how to do it. It improves performance a lot. I would recommend to start with plugs/routers first.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Lorang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/felix_lorang/32/29400_2.png) [@Felix\_Lorang](https://community.homey.app/u/Felix_Lorang)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/11 "2020-10-23T17:13:20Z")

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> [@DirkG](#):
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> 2 WallPlugs as only repeaters are of course clearly too few.

Before I had none, and it worked. So now I am confused, because now I am having too few, which is still 2 more than before, and I really have no idea. 😃  
Anyway, they don’t use the repeater to connect via MESH, so did I switch something off by accident? I am really lost here

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Lorang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/felix_lorang/32/29400_2.png) [@Felix\_Lorang](https://community.homey.app/u/Felix_Lorang)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/13 "2020-10-23T18:28:19Z")

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Thanks for the advice, I realized this only by now, I was running a system for a year without any trouble. Appearantly my Information or impression was wrong, that every device in a Z-Wave MESH can act as a node.

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**Author:** ![Felix\_Lorang](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/felix_lorang/32/29400_2.png) [@Felix\_Lorang](https://community.homey.app/u/Felix_Lorang)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/15 "2020-10-23T18:58:11Z")

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I do realize that now and am shopping at the moment as we write. poor me, shopping electronics. 😃

And I can assure you, there is nothing modern about our house.

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-zwave-not-using-nodes/36396/16 "2020-10-24T07:23:54Z")

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Btw, it’s possible to try to heal the connection of the devices.  
In Developer (Z-Wave) on the right side of the devices there are 3 dots shown. You can click on the 3 dots and some words will be shown.  
With „Test“ you can test the connection of this device if it’s reachable from homey (over a repeater or on direct way).  
With „Heal“ you „ask“ for the list of the neighbor devices. With this option the device search for a new and functional route to homey.  
To test or heal battery powered devices you have to wake them up before you activate „Test“ or „Heal“.
