# Homey with fibaro switch "permanent on" **URL:** \ **Category:** Developers\ **Tags:** app, z-wave, zigbee, official, tools\ **Created:** [February 28, 2019, 7:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-with-fibaro-switch-permanent-on/9828 "2019-02-28T07:47:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wim_de_kreek/32/6725_2.png) [@Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://community.homey.app/u/Wim_de_Kreek)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 7:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-with-fibaro-switch-permanent-on/9828/1 "2019-02-28T07:47:10Z")
I am a user of fibaro switches in my homey system and I am very pleased with the possibilitys. However I have a question: is it possible to create a rule :“permanently on”. I use motion detection in combination with time controlled on. when there is a motion detection its possible that one of my lights is switched off after for example 5 minutes, but in another flow he was programmed to be activated for a longer time. ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-with-fibaro-switch-permanent-on/9828/2 "2019-02-28T08:06:52Z")
With this small amount of detailed information it is not quite clear what you are asking exactly or what the problem really is. 1. If it has to stay permanently on, why don’t you remove the fibaro switch? 2. if it is a flow problem, adjust your flows accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wim_de_kreek/32/6725_2.png) [@Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://community.homey.app/u/Wim_de_Kreek)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-with-fibaro-switch-permanent-on/9828/3 "2019-02-28T08:17:26Z")
Peter, printscreen1; this is the flow for time controlled switch on for 5 hours printscreen 2; this is the flow for motion detection with switch the same light for 5 min. after detection the first flow I would like to be able to choose not switch on, but switch permanently for 300 min or 5 hours. Schermafbeelding%202|690x431 ---
**Author:** ![Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wim_de_kreek/32/6725_2.png) [@Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://community.homey.app/u/Wim_de_Kreek)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-with-fibaro-switch-permanent-on/9828/4 "2019-02-28T08:18:34Z")
![Schermafbeelding%201](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/6/69c7f086ca7777c0821a7928ca66a55771efeaee.jpeg) Printscreen 1 ---
**Author:** ![Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wim_de_kreek/32/6725_2.png) [@Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://community.homey.app/u/Wim_de_Kreek)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-with-fibaro-switch-permanent-on/9828/5 "2019-02-28T08:19:11Z")
![Schermafbeelding%202](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/0/0bbcc87a4cce50692985089460a1e95f9d5e42f0.jpeg) printscreen 2 ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-with-fibaro-switch-permanent-on/9828/6 "2019-02-28T08:44:41Z")
Hmm, not so easy. Maybe you can build in a time frame in the motion detection flow. IF motion detected AND time between 17:30/22:30 (the permanent time window) THEN switch on x, y, z (and no off for the lights it concerns) ELSE switch on x, y, z (and off after 5 mins for all lights) Or maybe someone else has a better idea? ---
**Author:** ![Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wim_de_kreek/32/6725_2.png) [@Wim\_de\_Kreek](https://community.homey.app/u/Wim_de_Kreek)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-with-fibaro-switch-permanent-on/9828/7 "2019-02-28T10:27:04Z")
I would like to have the possibility to choose when I am creating a flow between “switch on” and “switch on permanent” ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 10:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-with-fibaro-switch-permanent-on/9828/8 "2019-02-28T10:44:15Z")
Ehm… “Switch on” is permanent until you switch it off again… And that is exactly what you do in another flow. If permanent would be permanent, how can you switch it off later if necessary then?