# Homey V5 (Discussion about v5 before it was released to stable)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [July 18, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554 "2020-07-18T22:57:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KvM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kvm/32/6707_2.png) [@KvM](https://community.homey.app/u/KvM)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/164 "2020-10-02T07:38:03Z")

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I don’t think it would increase range, hardware is not changed in either homey or your devices.

My devices are still connected, but i have a lot of routers (philips hue) so no idea about range

And having routers in a zigbee mesh is a always a good idea anyways…

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**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Bos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_bos/32/10844_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Bos](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Bos)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/165 "2020-10-02T09:28:45Z")

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@Cory v5’s zigbee is awesome. Reliability and speed is much better. It wont improve range, if range is a problem include more net powered zigbee devices or ikea signal booster, all net powered zigbee devices will work as a mesh router in your zigbee network

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**Author:** ![danone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/danone/32/115743_2.png) [@danone](https://community.homey.app/u/danone)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/166 "2020-10-02T21:26:46Z")

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> [@Jeroen\_Bos](#):
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> if range is a problem

Did anybody say [ANTENNA MOD](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-antenna-mod/2928/26)? 😉

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**Author:** ![zector](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/zector/32/16576_2.png) [@zector](https://community.homey.app/u/zector)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/167 "2020-10-03T10:12:44Z")

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Go to [http://developer.athom.com/tools/api-playground](http://developer.athom.com/tools/api-playground) and enter the command below, then press “RUN”.

//Get SDK version of Apps - SDK v2 and higher needed for Homey firmware 5.x, The value after “int” is each apps SDK version.  
Homey.apps.getApps().then(f =\> Object.values(f).reduce((r,b)=\>Object.assign(r, {[b.name]:b.sdk}), {}));

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**Author:** ![Lowlander61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/lowlander61/32/9936_2.png) [@Lowlander61](https://community.homey.app/u/Lowlander61)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/168 "2020-10-06T19:15:47Z")

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Again when are they expecting to release the final V5? Just bought some stuf from Robsshop (its own brand) to find out it is not supported under V4 (not stated on their website), and not planning to update the robs.app for V4. Only V5. So its useless for the moment.

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**Author:** ![johan\_bendz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/johan_bendz/32/10344_2.png) [@johan\_bendz](https://community.homey.app/u/johan_bendz)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/169 "2020-10-06T19:59:14Z")

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@Lowlander61.  
Wait no more 😉  
Well… you will have to install the experimental firmware… but the app is ready.

> **[ROBB smarrt](https://homey.app/sv-se/app/nl.ROBBshop.ROBB-smarrt/ROBB-smarrt/)**
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> Automatisera ditt hem eller kontor på det 'smarta' sättet med ROBBshops egen linje!

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**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/170 "2020-10-06T21:19:33Z")

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> [@Lowlander61](#):
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> Again when are they expecting to release the final V5? Just bought some stuf from Robsshop (its own brand) to find out it is not supported under V4 (not stated on their website), and not planning to update the robs.app for V4. Only V5. So its useless for the moment.

Unfortunately, Athom’s app store does not allow to release an app towards v4, while another v5 capable version is in the test environment. If there would be an option to go around this, we would have used it.

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**Author:** ![Daniel\_S](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daniel_s/32/24881_2.png) [@Daniel\_S](https://community.homey.app/u/Daniel_S)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/171 "2020-10-07T13:04:39Z")

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What alternatives to Led ring collection you mean? I dont see any? Or?

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**Author:** ![KvM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kvm/32/6707_2.png) [@KvM](https://community.homey.app/u/KvM)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/172 "2020-10-07T13:06:11Z")

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This one probably: [Led It Be App voor Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/nl.fellownet.leditbe/Led-It-Be/)  
or maybe this one: [LEDitor App voor Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/openmindnl.leditor/LEDitor/)

But I did not test them yet

Edit: answer translated to english

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**Author:** ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/173 "2020-10-07T20:10:00Z")

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> [@KvM](#):
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> [LEDitor App voor Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/openmindnl.leditor/LEDitor/)

This one is not compatible, it’s also the same developer as the led ring collection.

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**Author:** ![KvM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kvm/32/6707_2.png) [@KvM](https://community.homey.app/u/KvM)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/174 "2020-10-08T10:22:50Z")

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Too bad…

And I do not seem to understand how the other one is working, so far no real alternative. But could be worse app to have no replacement for, was just a nice to have for me

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**Author:** ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 4:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/175 "2020-10-09T04:53:23Z")

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> [@KvM](#):
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> I do not seem to understand how the other one is working

I didn’t understand it at first either, but now I get it. You have to set your screensaver to **Led it Be** and then add another card to set what you want as a led it be screensaver. You can find the led it be card all the way at the bottom at the **Apps** section.

 ![Screenshot_20201009-064653_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/7/d7ab0d71ee7a5b0f0833150d7724fe949fd3e7bd.jpeg)  
Options:  
 ![Screenshot_20201009-064713_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/4/248ecd33db61f874c0abdf9cd7c76be4c3b4739a.jpeg)

> [@Philips Hue with or without Hue Hub?](https://community.homey.app/t/philips-hue-with-or-without-hue-hub/14144/26):
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> The issue is that Homey cannot handle sending a lot of (Zigbee) commands in parallel

Does anyone know if V5 fixes this issue? So I could turn on groups/multiple zigbee lights at once instead of adding 1 sec delays.

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**Author:** ![Lars\_Machiels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/lars_machiels/32/10295_2.png) [@Lars\_Machiels](https://community.homey.app/u/Lars_Machiels)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/176 "2020-10-10T14:30:50Z")

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I was wondering whether HomeyDuino will work in version 5. Does anyone have a clue? I know HomeyDuino does not seem to work in the 5.x experimental version.

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**Author:** ![Slof](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/slof/32/1318_2.png) [@Slof](https://community.homey.app/u/Slof)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/177 "2020-10-10T16:52:56Z")

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Yes it is SDK2 so it will work

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**Author:** ![Geurti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/geurti/32/8560_2.png) [@Geurti](https://community.homey.app/u/Geurti)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/178 "2020-10-11T11:36:41Z")

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Does anyone know about Osram Lightify plugs?  
Are they already working in version 5.0?  
Can’t find anything about it.

Edit:  
Found it.  
Seems like we have to wait for Athom and the official release.

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**Author:** ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/179 "2020-10-11T19:45:04Z")

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> [@Geurti](#):
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> Seems like we have to wait for Athom and the official release.

I would have expected they already have a version. But apparently not?.

I mean when V5 expects SDK3 for zigbee apps, then I would assume Athom makes sure that their zigbee apps are SDK3 🤔

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**Author:** ![Geurti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/geurti/32/8560_2.png) [@Geurti](https://community.homey.app/u/Geurti)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/180 "2020-10-11T20:00:37Z")

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Could be, but why is it still in the list of non working apps then?  
This is the only app I need before running v 5.0

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**Author:** ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/181 "2020-10-11T20:08:51Z")

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What I read is that there are two apps.  
Osram Lightify which is deprecated and there is Osram Lightify (Zigbee).

 ![Screenshot_20201011-220452_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/4/f406de0c7e03b718944571e3642cf5410d3acfac.jpeg)

@johan_bendz do you know if 1.4.x is compatible with V5?

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**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/182 "2020-10-11T20:12:10Z")

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Yes it is, otherwise it would be listed in the non-compatible apps list.

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**Author:** ![Geurti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/geurti/32/8560_2.png) [@Geurti](https://community.homey.app/u/Geurti)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/183 "2020-10-11T20:24:10Z")

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I found my information on this list.  
Confused now 🤨

> [@Apps currently not working on Homey v5](https://community.homey.app/t/apps-currently-not-working-on-homey-v5/35748):
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> Let’s try a WIKI post. Apps not working on Homey version V5. I’ll add an app that doesn’t work with V5 and u can add an app urself just by editing this post. On the bottom of this very post there is an edit icon. Click the icon, edit the post with ur own app u know not working on V5 and save edit. Lets see how this goes. Full list of apps still based on SDK1 or Zigbee apps not updated to SDK3: App ID App Name Comment com.bbqguru.cyberq BBQ Guru info.matjaz.presence Better Presence …

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