# Homey V5 (Discussion about v5 before it was released to stable)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [July 18, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554 "2020-07-18T22:57:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/darra/32/8656_2.png) [@Darra](https://community.homey.app/u/Darra)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/61 "2020-07-25T21:25:22Z")

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Hi! I was doing it that way you describe but it loads V 5.0.XX  
Thanks!!

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**Author:** ![Darra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/darra/32/8656_2.png) [@Darra](https://community.homey.app/u/Darra)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/62 "2020-07-25T21:30:21Z")

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Is there any other places except Homey developer place i can tick off Experimental updates?  
When i was performed restore to factory default with do not keep settings i get back V 5.0.xx  
BR Dario

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 9:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/63 "2020-07-26T09:08:33Z")

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> [@Darra](#):
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> Is there any other places except Homey developer place i can tick off Experimental updates?

I guess not.

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/64 "2020-07-26T15:36:06Z")

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No experience myself, as I am still on v4.2.0 luckily, but for those trying to roll back, see:

> [@How to rollback firmware from V 5.0 back to V 4.20](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-rollback-firmware-from-v-5-0-back-to-v-4-20/32796/6):
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> I successfully rolled back from experimental V5 to V 4.20. I used the same method as Jamie but under firmware checking you have to hold the ALT button. There you will have the option to roll back to latest stable version. Remember to hit “next” button once you have checked the box…I hit the box itself resulting in “you already have the latest firmware”. Took me many attempts to find out that I hit the wrong button slight_smile PS!! If you dont have a Homey Pro + subscription you will loose…

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**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/65 "2020-07-26T15:46:44Z")

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This the one an only place where to disable Experimental Updates: (and it works for me)  
[https://developer.athom.com/tools/settings](https://developer.athom.com/tools/settings)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/3/735c620eab1f8d9c58eac9a7df66a06778d229fe.png)

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**Author:** ![Darra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/darra/32/8656_2.png) [@Darra](https://community.homey.app/u/Darra)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/66 "2020-07-26T16:43:18Z")

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BINGO!!!  
Thanks this method work. Where , how did you found this method ??? This should be good for other user to read if they want to revert back to 4.2.  
What i done whith your help:  
1.After connecting to wifi , emediatly i was pressing ALT when update checking was ongoing. PS do not release ALT key otherwise it will continue with setup.  
When i hold ALT i get these alternatives for selection:

 ![20200726_181655](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/f/3f66dddf6eb9039d83f654316b13e4a8be9955aa.jpeg)

Still i was holding ALT key and selected with mouse Revert to stable channel, still ALT hold and press enter.  
After that load with new software started and i successfuly get back old firmware.  
Forget to mention that i lose all settings.  
Thanks for help. This make my day Happy

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**Author:** ![Tangodelta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tangodelta/32/9471_2.png) [@Tangodelta](https://community.homey.app/u/Tangodelta)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/67 "2020-07-26T18:25:54Z")

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Have absolutely no problems with Homey 5.0 rc18, except for Vision security, Aqara and LaMetric. That only because they still havent upgraded for SDK3, but that is around the corner.

In fact, Homey has never been more stable than now with the rewrite, zigbee is a dream, its fast and its reliable, its a new Homey!

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**Author:** ![Exile82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8491ac/32.png) [@Exile82](https://community.homey.app/u/Exile82)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 9:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/68 "2020-07-27T09:39:50Z")

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That is comforting to hear, I will wait for Xiaomi app before updating to v5. I trust that @TedTolboom will take his vacation with no interference from coding, and hopefully he have time to do this later on. No rush for my sake

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**Author:** ![Maurice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/maurice/32/26294_2.png) [@Maurice](https://community.homey.app/u/Maurice)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/69 "2020-07-27T20:38:46Z")

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Just curious: Is the number of directly connected Zigbee devices increasing with the Zigbee rewrite / firmware V5? Or is this a hardware limitation?

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/70 "2020-07-27T20:47:49Z")

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20 direct connected is limitation of the chip used.

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**Author:** ![Tb1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tb1/32/8934_2.png) [@Tb1](https://community.homey.app/u/Tb1)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 6:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/71 "2020-07-29T06:55:09Z")

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Hi,  
Is ikea Fyrtur remote working in v5.0?

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/74 "2020-07-29T07:57:54Z")

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Have you checked the app page for the supported devices?

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**Author:** ![Tb1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tb1/32/8934_2.png) [@Tb1](https://community.homey.app/u/Tb1)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/75 "2020-07-29T08:06:06Z")

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Yes, it’s not there. Ikea on/off button is working but it’s not on the app page.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 8:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/76 "2020-07-29T08:31:23Z")

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Also checked the test app? If it’s there? If it’s not on those pages I would recon it’s not supported

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/77 "2020-07-29T08:54:56Z")

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That’s this one, right?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/7/977cdc1f3e9126c416a1ff24b5c3335e602d647f.png)

It’s supported by the [current test version of the IKEA app](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.ikea.tradfri/IKEA-Tr%C3%A5dfri/test/).

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**Author:** ![Tb1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tb1/32/8934_2.png) [@Tb1](https://community.homey.app/u/Tb1)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/78 "2020-07-29T09:06:58Z")

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Yes, that one. Do you know what cards it have?

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 9:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/79 "2020-07-29T09:29:57Z")

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> [@Tb1](#):
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> Do you know what cards it have?

No sorry, I don’t run the app myself and its source isn’t available so I can’t check.

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 10:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/80 "2020-07-29T10:01:39Z")

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“up button is pressed”  
“down button is pressed”  
And the default battery alarm cards (no percentage).

Don’t have it myself, but this is what the source says.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/81 "2020-07-29T10:22:42Z")

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> [@Caseda](#):
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> Don’t have it myself, but this is what the source says.

Duh, I forgot to search for the source on Github 🥴

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**Author:** ![Tasz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tasz/32/17196_2.png) [@Tasz](https://community.homey.app/u/Tasz)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/82 "2020-08-03T12:34:50Z")

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for information, I am now updated to 5.0.0 RC 22 and the “days off” (dutch = vrije dagen) and “sun positions” (dutch = zonnestanden) works again

all these apps ~~except smart presence~~ works well under 5.0.0 RC 22

 ![Screenshot_20200803-143532_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/3/f35f53703c8286278c5eb3b0db907f397373e65e.jpeg)

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