# Homey V5 (Discussion about v5 before it was released to stable)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [July 18, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554 "2020-07-18T22:57:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 8:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/21 "2020-07-20T08:16:20Z")

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That’s an pretty accurate summary @Adrian_Rockall

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 8:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/22 "2020-07-20T08:38:40Z")

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> [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](#):
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> No, the question is whether all app have to be rewritten to support sdk3

Then I totally misunderstood the question from @peltsi51, sorry.  
And @Adrian_Rockall had a nice summery below ur post.

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 9:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/23 "2020-07-20T09:11:36Z")

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Just another info that V5 will be released this week. But I can’t say how reliable the source is.

 ![Bildschirmfoto 2020-07-20 um 11.05.40](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/7/d724ad82cc62f9d9d116d0c33fcd07690406ba9c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/24 "2020-07-20T09:26:11Z")

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Don’t think he has more info than we do. He probably received the same e-mail als we all did. First an e-mail saying it will be released in a few weeks, and late last week an e-mail stating the v5 will be released to experimental this week.

As you can see in a couple of replies on FB people don’t seem to understand why there is an experiential channel. I do not agree with the name as it doesn’t really reflect what is going on (eg they say they are RC’s, which in fact they are not). But still, for the most stable, you don’t go into experimental.

I fully agree with @Adrian_Rockall . I think that’s the way it’ll work.

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I now even received a message from the homey app my homey will be upgraded to v5 tonight. Now I don’t have automatic updates enabled, but I think they are really trying to inform everyone.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 10:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/25 "2020-07-20T10:23:45Z")

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**Author:** ![victoroos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victoroos/32/8344_2.png) [@victoroos](https://community.homey.app/u/victoroos)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/26 "2020-07-20T13:11:05Z")

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#chaosje \<3 nice!. hm. so tonight, lets see how it goes

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/27 "2020-07-20T13:35:26Z")

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Chaos!

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/28 "2020-07-20T13:35:51Z")

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V5 RC 17 just got released to experimental

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**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/29 "2020-07-20T13:53:17Z")

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/30 "2020-07-20T13:54:53Z")

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Smart Presence is a SDK1 app, doesn’t work anymore. Other that that, all my apps work.

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**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/31 "2020-07-20T13:57:57Z")

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Are you also using Zigbee?

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/32 "2020-07-20T14:07:56Z")

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Yes but not with homey… so no problems for me

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**Author:** ![Tasz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tasz/32/17196_2.png) [@Tasz](https://community.homey.app/u/Tasz)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/33 "2020-07-20T17:50:25Z")

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The smart presence app does indeed no longer work. SDK version is not supported

almost everything works fine.

I have a lot of IKEA zigbee devices and they seem to respond well

I only found only problems with Robb smarrt’s new app. V2.0.2  
This app was automatically updated after the homey v5 update  
I can no longer start a scene with my wall controlers (z-wave)

The connection is good because the signal comes in on the devolper page when I press a button.

If I create a new flow and choose “a scene is activated” then the list is empty and I cannot select a scene.

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**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/34 "2020-07-20T18:53:19Z")

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We have created a list in the German forum which app works and with which there are problems. You are welcome to add the list to the English forum and keep it up.

> [@Homey v5.0.0 - Erfahrungen und kompatible Apps](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-0-0-erfahrungen-und-kompatible-apps/32560):
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> Homey v5.0.0 steht ab sofort zum downloaden bereit. Hinweise: Es können auch “nicht Zigbee” Apps, Fehler haben. Es sind teilweise auch Zwave, Wlan und andere Apps betroffen, die die SDK 1 zurück melden. Athom hat SDK 1 komplett deaktiviert. Apps die noch damit arbeiten, funktionieren nicht mehr, da Athom solche Apps in Homey deaktiviert. Das heißt, je älter das eine App ist oder je länger sie kein Update mehr bekommen hat, desto wahrscheinlicher ist es, dass sie nicht mehr funktioniert. Be…

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**Author:** ![peltsi51](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peltsi51/32/12564_2.png) [@peltsi51](https://community.homey.app/u/peltsi51)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/35 "2020-07-20T19:11:23Z")

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Which version of the smart presence app doesn’t work? The official app store app or the community app store app?

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/36 "2020-07-20T19:16:41Z")

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Neither work, both are created in SDKv1. As far as I know at least.

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**Author:** ![peltsi51](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peltsi51/32/12564_2.png) [@peltsi51](https://community.homey.app/u/peltsi51)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/37 "2020-07-22T05:26:30Z")

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Does anyone have any experience on the zigbee rewrite, has the zigbee operation gone any better?

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**Author:** ![peltsi51](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peltsi51/32/12564_2.png) [@peltsi51](https://community.homey.app/u/peltsi51)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 5:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/38 "2020-07-22T05:33:59Z")

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The version in the bitbucket says in app.json “compatibility”: “\>=2”

Shouldn’t this mean that it works with sdk3 or is there more to it than that?

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 6:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/39 "2020-07-22T06:05:53Z")

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That’s the firmware compatibility, not the SDK compatibility. So the app is compatible with firmware v2 and up (which, yes, also includes firmware v5, but when the developer wrote the app he didn’t know that from v5 onwards his app would stop working; technically it should now read `>=2 <5`)

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**Author:** ![Gena\_Ostapchuk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gena_ostapchuk/32/23402_2.png) [@Gena\_Ostapchuk](https://community.homey.app/u/Gena_Ostapchuk)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 8:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/40 "2020-07-22T08:32:32Z")

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(FIBARO Motion Sensor and FIBARO DoorWindow Sensor 2 ) after the reset, after a few hours, the tamper alarm again (5.0.0-rc.17 and Fibaro 2.4.6) and (5.0.0-rc.17 and Fibaro 3.0.0З)

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