# Homey V5 (Discussion about v5 before it was released to stable)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [July 18, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554 "2020-07-18T22:57:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![rvdeijk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvdeijk/32/22542_2.png) [@rvdeijk](https://community.homey.app/u/rvdeijk)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/184 "2020-10-12T05:39:35Z")

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> [@rvdeijk](#):
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> What I read is that there are two apps.

Read my post again. Two apps exist. The first **Osram Lightify** is not V5 compatible the second **Osram Lightify (Zigbee)** is V5 compatible.

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**Author:** ![Geurti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/geurti/32/8560_2.png) [@Geurti](https://community.homey.app/u/Geurti)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/185 "2020-10-12T06:39:55Z")

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In my memories there were two Osram apps on that list 😉  
Anyway, problem solved.  
Now I only have to find some courage to step in the v5 world.

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**Author:** ![Espen\_Bruaroy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/espen_bruaroy/32/29237_2.png) [@Espen\_Bruaroy](https://community.homey.app/u/Espen_Bruaroy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/186 "2020-10-12T16:04:01Z")

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They work fine

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**Author:** ![Jordi\_Visbeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jordi_visbeen/32/27957_2.png) [@Jordi\_Visbeen](https://community.homey.app/u/Jordi_Visbeen)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 9:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/187 "2020-10-15T09:44:08Z")

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I’m still on 4.2.0, but when I open the P1 smartmeter device, I get the notification that the device maybe will not be longer supported in the future.

 ![P1 SM support](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/0/70f3a606b719824bc056bde08fe560d941e863e4.jpeg)

The app is: [P1 DSMRv4 Board Lezer App voor Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/com.p1.dsmr/P1-DSMRv4-Board-Lezer/)  
Which according the developer page is on SDKv2.  
Also it’s not listed in the list of non-supported apps for V5.0.0.

So any idea why I get this notification? Or nothing to do with V5.0.0?

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**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 9:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/188 "2020-10-15T09:47:37Z")

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> [@Jordi\_Visbeen](#):
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> So any idea why I get this notification? Or nothing to do with V5.0.0?

The app developer has marked the device driver as Deprecated. Likely a new driver for the same device has been made but no migration is possible. So you’ll need to re add the device to benefit from the new driver.

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**Author:** ![Jordi\_Visbeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jordi_visbeen/32/27957_2.png) [@Jordi\_Visbeen](https://community.homey.app/u/Jordi_Visbeen)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/189 "2020-10-15T14:47:12Z")

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Re-adding the device ended up in a non-findable situation 😢  
So I had to restore a backup from yesterday.

Maybe I’ll have to try to contact the developer about what’s going on…

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**Author:** ![Max\_Menther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/max_menther/32/31562_2.png) [@Max\_Menther](https://community.homey.app/u/Max_Menther)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/190 "2020-10-15T18:07:01Z")

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> [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](#):
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> 20 direct connected is limitation of the chip used.

Just 20? Not 50?

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/191 "2020-10-15T18:30:17Z")

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No, 20.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/192 "2020-10-15T18:47:18Z")

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When utilizing enough routers it shouldn’t matter that much. And when exceeding that, then move to deConz or something else.

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**Author:** ![nattelip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nattelip/32/10013_2.png) [@nattelip](https://community.homey.app/u/nattelip)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 9:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/193 "2020-10-18T09:14:58Z")

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is anything changed in the code to use in homeyscript for sdk 3 ? i dont think so cant find any changelogs for that

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/194 "2020-10-18T11:57:59Z")

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> [@nattelip](#):
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> is anything changed in the code to use in homeyscript for sdk 3 ?

Have you looked at the test version and the examples?  
What change did you expect or are you looking for?  
Or what isn’t working after upgrading?

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**Author:** ![ReMARKable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/remarkable/32/30895_2.png) [@ReMARKable](https://community.homey.app/u/ReMARKable)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/195 "2020-11-04T09:21:17Z")

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Do we have an ETA of when version 5 will be released?

I’m pretty depended on my Homey and I use mostly Zigbee devices (Xiaomi/Aqara, Ikea), so the Zigbee improvements would be great to have as I sometimes experience minor problems with Zigbee communications. I understand I could use the beta v5, but I’m scared of the consequences.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/196 "2020-11-04T09:21:52Z")

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> [@ReMARKable](#):
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> Do we have an ETA of when version 5 will be released?

No.

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**Author:** ![ReMARKable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/remarkable/32/30895_2.png) [@ReMARKable](https://community.homey.app/u/ReMARKable)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/197 "2020-11-04T09:29:06Z")

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Thank you for the very clear and fast answer Robert, but I was asking for an estimate, like:

- 1e quarter of 2021
- 2e half of 2021

Is it impossible to have a bit more insight of the timetable?

Furthermore;

- What are the consequences of running the beta version and will it update to a later beta of pre-release automatically.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 9:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/198 "2020-11-04T09:34:55Z")

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> [@ReMARKable](#):
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> Is it impossible to have a bit more insight of the timetable?

To be honest: yes. Athom doesn’t publish ETA’s on their firmware. It may be tomorrow, it may be somewhere in 2021. All we know, it will be Before Christmas (in any given year).

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**Author:** ![Igy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/igy/32/22144_2.png) [@Igy](https://community.homey.app/u/Igy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/199 "2020-11-04T14:10:57Z")

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> [@ReMARKable](#):
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> What are the consequences of running the beta version and will it update to a later beta of pre-release automatically.

Beside the fact, that its beta and some of devices/apps doesnt have to work correctly, I dont see other consequences. If you turn off auto updates, then you have updates fully under control and once stable V will be ready, you can update to it and become offitial. So far Im runnig on V5 for some weeks already and no single issue (with following apps and devices Fibaro, Aqara, Remotec, Hank, Smartpresence, Ikea, Countdown, Heimdall, IFTTT, Shelly, Sonos, Xiaomi Mi Home and few others).

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**Author:** ![CB83](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/cb83/32/30125_2.png) [@CB83](https://community.homey.app/u/CB83)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/200 "2020-11-06T20:26:24Z")

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Is it possibly to downgrade if i update to v5?

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/201 "2020-11-06T20:53:05Z")

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Don’t do it!

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**Author:** ![CB83](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/cb83/32/30125_2.png) [@CB83](https://community.homey.app/u/CB83)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/202 "2020-11-06T21:37:41Z")

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Getting mixed signals… Some have problem, some don’t. For now I don’t have any problems, but mu “upgrade finger” itches!

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 8:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/203 "2020-11-07T08:47:25Z")

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Not every update is an upgrade!  
And if it ain’t broken…!

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