# Homey V5 (Discussion about v5 before it was released to stable)

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [July 18, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554 "2020-07-18T22:57:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![pssc92](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pssc92/32/16562_2.png) [@pssc92](https://community.homey.app/u/pssc92)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/1 "2020-07-18T22:57:12Z")

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Anybody have some more info on which new features will be coming tot homey V5?

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/2 "2020-07-19T03:52:24Z")

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It will be changes to the SDK (software development kit) and underlying technologies which should lead to better aka more stable applications.

If there are any features then they are only known to Athom.

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**Author:** ![David\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/david_k/32/10319_2.png) [@David\_K](https://community.homey.app/u/David_K)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/3 "2020-07-19T06:02:58Z")

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To me, v5 = zigbee rw. The rest we will see. 😄😄😄

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**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/4 "2020-07-19T06:27:28Z")

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RW = Re-write.

[https://community.homey.app/t/important-message-for-experimental-users-upcoming-homey-v5-0-0/32140/2](https://community.homey.app/t/important-message-for-experimental-users-upcoming-homey-v5-0-0/32140/2)

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**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/5 "2020-07-19T06:38:39Z")

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the zigbee RW is very welcome!

I hope there will eventually be some new hardware! Like a central controll screen, maybe a collab with Atmos Home.

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**Author:** ![pssc92](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pssc92/32/16562_2.png) [@pssc92](https://community.homey.app/u/pssc92)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/6 "2020-07-19T06:48:18Z")

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Let’s wait and see. I was hoping on some new awaited features. The signee rewrite is much appreciated as well!

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**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/7 "2020-07-19T07:32:23Z")

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It is the Zigbee rewrite and SDK3 is supporting.

Please read the announcement carefully; it is an experimental release, which will contain bugs and by far not all apps (among others my Aqara app), are updated.

So the devices of those apps will no longer work on Homey v5 until the app has been updated to SDK3.

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 9:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/8 "2020-07-19T09:42:38Z")

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According to @Undertaker v5 is to be released in the next week:

> [@Homey v5.0.0 wurde soeben angekündigt](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-0-0-wurde-soeben-angekundigt/32139/38):
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> Ich habe von Homey eine Push Nachricht mit der Ankündigung auf nächste Woche bekommen. Quasi als letzte Warnung rofl. Vielleicht ist die nur bei Leuten aufgeschlagen, die die Updates nicht deaktiviert haben.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 9:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/9 "2020-07-19T09:46:26Z")

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If it is, it will be as an ~~alpha~~  ~~beta~~ release candidate.

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 10:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/10 "2020-07-19T10:35:01Z")

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There has never been announced a full date that it will be released… When the email was send out to experimental users ([link to message](https://community.homey.app/t/important-message-for-experimental-users-upcoming-homey-v5-0-0/32140)), the 7th of July, it said “few weeks” which can mean tomorrow, but also still several weeks away.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/11 "2020-07-19T13:02:14Z")

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I also had a pushnotification for next week release.

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/12 "2020-07-19T15:47:26Z")

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And the topic title of the push message contained “next week” . Also got one yes.

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**Author:** ![peltsi51](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peltsi51/32/12564_2.png) [@peltsi51](https://community.homey.app/u/peltsi51)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/13 "2020-07-19T19:24:12Z")

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May be a stupid question. If app has written to support sdk2 will it have to be rewritten/repaired or somehow chaged to support sdk3? And now I’m not talking about zigbee apps but all other apps for example older apps that dont have active developer.

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/14 "2020-07-19T19:30:22Z")

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> [@peltsi51](#):
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> And now I’m not talking about zigbee apps but all other apps

Then the answer will be no!

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/15 "2020-07-19T19:47:30Z")

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From what I understand it is yes. To support sdk3 there needs to be adjustments, probably not very much (my guess) but still. V5 however will support both sdk2 and 3. V1 will be removed completely. But correct me if I’m wrong.

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/16 "2020-07-19T19:49:53Z")

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So :  
“Homey Apps that add support for Zigbee devices need to be updated to SDK version 3 before they can be used on Homey v5.0.0.”  
goes for all apps? Not just for apps using Zigbee devices?  
That would mean that the [Ancilla app](https://store.homey.community/app/com.roco.ancilla) would also be out of order after the 5.0 update?

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/17 "2020-07-19T21:14:41Z")

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No, both 2 and 3 are supported. How it’ll work on the long term, I don’t know.

And yes, if that is a sdk1 app then it’ll stop working. But that is what I understood of it.

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/18 "2020-07-20T04:54:05Z")

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So the question was: does ALL apps (besides the Zigbee apps because of the Zigbee rewrite) have to be rewritten from sdk2 to sdk3 ?  
Answer is : No!

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 6:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/19 "2020-07-20T06:04:50Z")

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No, the question is whether all app have to be rewritten to support sdk3. So yes… but I also think in the end support for sdk2 will be dropped… but that is just a hunch and won’t be anytime soon

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**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 7:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-v5-discussion-about-v5-before-it-was-released-to-stable/32554/20 "2020-07-20T07:25:26Z")

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Just to add my understanding of the situation with V5:

1. Any app that uses SDK 1 will stop working.
2. Any app that uses ZigBee will stop working (until it is updated to SDK 3).
3. Any app that uses SDK 2 but NOT ZigBee will continue to work (until it doesn’t).
4. If there are any new features in SDK 3 then any app will need to be updated to use those feature.

But this is just how I have interpreted the little bits of information from various sources 😀.

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