# \[Homey Pro (Early 2023)\] App unsupported list **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** homey-pro, homey-pro-2023\ **Created:** [October 12, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324 "2022-10-12T20:44:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![JB2K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jb2k/32/134070_2.png) [@JB2K](https://community.homey.app/u/JB2K)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/83 "2022-10-17T16:20:19Z")
No. I want someone to say “for x amount I will port the app” then I can see if we can crowdfund that particular app or there is simply not enough demand for it. I’m not going to put money in a jar hoping someone will even notice ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/84 "2022-10-17T16:42:00Z")
> [@JB2K](#): > > I want someone to say “for x amount I will port the app” Look no further than my HomeyKit app: > [@\[App\]\[Pro\] HomeyKit](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homeykit/70469): > > HomeyKit With this app you can pair Homey to HomeKit and control your Homey devices using iOS, Siri and Shortcuts. IMPORTANT: this app is deprecated With the release of the new [HomeKitty app](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homekitty-aka-homeykit-3-0/72824), this app will not be developed any further, apart from an SDKv3 release before the release of the new Homey Pro. You can keep on using HomeyKit for as long as you like, but it won’t be actively maintained anymore. You can run HomeyKit and HomeKitty on your Homey without getting in the way of each other (… The amount I’m asking for is the price of a new Homey Pro. ---
**Author:** ![JB2K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jb2k/32/134070_2.png) [@JB2K](https://community.homey.app/u/JB2K)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/85 "2022-10-17T17:11:21Z")
Yes I love you approach, and you immediately know if people want see it on the Homey Pro 2023 or not lol I hope more dev’s take this approach and perhaps even update my needed app that’s on life support currently. ---
**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/86 "2022-10-17T17:53:03Z")
Nice, 400€ for porting from SDK2 to SDK3? Then I know why no donations are left for other devs 😑 It’s a bit of blackmail… What if every dev wants a Homey for free? ---
**Author:** ![JB2K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jb2k/32/134070_2.png) [@JB2K](https://community.homey.app/u/JB2K)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/87 "2022-10-17T18:05:30Z")
To be fair when apple decided to use a brand new chipset the Apple M1 all developers could buy (officially borrow) a special MacMini M1 for 75% discount. If you create a new development platform and you are relying on other coders to make your product what is it. you should really embrace your community app builders instead of just throw a new device in the mix and hope for the best. the more i read on the forum’s and chat the greater my doubt get that the new Homey will actually be a success ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/88 "2022-10-17T18:05:55Z")
That’s a tough discussion. Let’s say you (or anybody) use 20 community developer’s apps and donate €1,00 to each. That’s cheap compaired to the investment most here did/do on hardware. I’m pretty sure that would cover the cost of a new Homey for most developers. But I also agree with @JB2K, perhaps Athom should in some way sponsor the community developers. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/89 "2022-10-17T18:18:21Z")
> [@RonnyW](#): > > Nice, 400€ for porting from SDK2 to SDK3? Correct. That’s about 2.5x my hourly rate, which is probably less than the amount of time I will actually spend on porting my app. > [@](#): > > Then I know why no donations are left for other devs 😑 > It’s a bit of blackmail… The “blackmail” part in this equation is Athom dropping SDK2 apps from the app store _for existing Homey owners_ with the clear intention to force devs to rewrite their apps to SDK3 so they will run on the new Homey Pro. > [@](#): > > What if every dev wants a Homey for free? I don’t want a Homey for free, I’m just not going to spend €400 on a device that I won’t be using for any other reason than to maintain my apps (which, by the way, I _also_ do for free). ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/90 "2022-10-17T18:22:47Z")
But isn’t the current Homey Pro switching to SDK 3 as well? Is a Homey Pro 2023 mandatory then for porting and testing apps to/on SDK 3? ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/91 "2022-10-17T18:25:57Z")
No, it’s not, but it’s a completely different device (and from what I can gather also has a completely different way of running apps), so to be able to fully test an app you really need one (just like you need a Homey Bridge if you want to write and test your apps for that device). ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/92 "2022-10-17T18:33:29Z")
Could be a start for developers then, since the SDK 2 apps will disappear for the current Homey Pro in the App Store too. As long as it is in test, uses can install that version on Homey Pro 2023 untill the reactions are that it it stable on that Homey too… ---
**Author:** ![JB2K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jb2k/32/134070_2.png) [@JB2K](https://community.homey.app/u/JB2K)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/93 "2022-10-17T18:34:07Z")
Wait… if the old one also gets SDK3 and SDK3 doesn’t support Speaker and Ledring… does that mean the Homey 2019 gets crippled by the new firmware? EDIT: -its not the case… pfiew… - ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/94 "2022-10-17T18:35:09Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > I’m just not going to spend €400 on a device that I won’t be using for any other reason than to maintain my apps (which, by the way, I _also_ do for free) If I understand correct from Athom it should be possible for you to upgrade the App to SDK3 with your current Homey (Pro) (Early 2019) or older. ( But you are right, for some things it could be better to test also with a new device, just to be sure it works if users mention issue.) But apart from that, I understand you now open the “Donations” to port [[App][Pro] HomeyKit](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homeykit/70469) I just realized the same for myself, > if only 50% of my users of my App donated 1€ it would compensate my extra investment that gave some “relational discussions” and even give me half of the const to take here out for a dinner. But I was that “naïve” I sponsored Athom to get a [![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/3/b3841206f08454fec5db94a8deaa9e15367c869b.png)](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/nu.dijker.papertrails/PaperTrails-Logboek/) Tag on my name. Losing my links to Paypal and Patreon on my apps… ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/95 "2022-10-17T18:35:23Z")
> [@JB2K](#): > > does that mean the Homey 2019 gets crippled by the new firmware? No, that is not said… ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/96 "2022-10-17T18:35:39Z")
> [@JB2K](#): > > and SDK3 doesn’t support Speaker and Ledring SDK3 does support the LED ring: [ManagerLedring - Homey Apps SDK v3](https://apps-sdk-v3.developer.homey.app/ManagerLedring.html) And also audio (which I assume is required for the speaker): [ManagerAudio - Homey Apps SDK v3](https://apps-sdk-v3.developer.homey.app/ManagerAudio.html) ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/97 "2022-10-17T18:36:02Z")
No, it’s not SDK3 that doesn’t support speaker and ledring, it’s the Homey Pro 2023 hardware. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/98 "2022-10-17T18:38:40Z")
> [@Dijker](#): > > If I understand correct from Athom it should be possible for you to upgrade the App to SDK3 with your current Homey (Pro) (Early 2019) or older. Of course that’s possible, otherwise there wouldn’t be any SDK3 apps available 😃 > [@](#): > > ( But you are right, for some things it could be better to test also with a new device, just to be sure it works if users mention issue.) The HomeKit protocol is already quite fragile in combination with Homey, the planets have to be aligned _just_ right for it to work properly. I’m guessing (but that’s just a guess) that the new Homey Pro will run apps in Docker containers, which makes networking even more challenging. Hence the requirement to test on one. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/99 "2022-10-17T18:46:28Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > I’m guessing (but that’s just a guess) that the new Homey Pro will run apps in Docker containers Interesting, that makes having “Everything Local” a new interpretation. as I expect the container image should come from an Athom repository. But it could that Athom “Backports” the Cloud to the Local Homey Pro that way, but it would make it a very big change. Let’s wait what the Homey Pro 2023 brings and if it is such a big change. ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/100 "2022-10-17T18:51:44Z")
> [@Dijker](#): > > But I was that “naïve” I sponsored Athom to get a [![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/3/b3841206f08454fec5db94a8deaa9e15367c869b.png)](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/nu.dijker.papertrails/PaperTrails-Logboek/) Tag on my name. > Losing my links to Paypal and Patreon on my apps… But I suppose that doesn’t make it illegal to put a PayPal link on the [App] topic here? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/101 "2022-10-17T18:54:36Z")
Sure, ill update apps. Might depend on the app sometimes, but mostly it only takes a few hours. As long as other people test, because i dont have all apps installed. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/102 "2022-10-17T19:04:38Z")
> [@Dijker](#): > > Interesting, > that makes having “Everything Local” a new interpretation. as I expect the container image should come from an Athom repository. Docker will use existing (cached) images. The system could do a “pull” periodically to fetch any updates, similarly to how firmware updates work. > [@](#): > > Let’s wait what the Homey Pro 2023 brings and if it is such a big change. Indeed. [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324.md?page=4) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324.md?page=6)