# Homey Premium?

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/homey-premium/89612>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [September 17, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-premium/89612 "2023-09-17T13:25:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Karst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f1d935/32.png) [@Karst](https://community.homey.app/u/Karst)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-premium/89612/1 "2023-09-17T13:25:51Z")

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Hi,  
Is Homey Premium included with the Pro version?

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**Author:** ![Gruijter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gruijter/32/1973_2.png) [@Gruijter](https://community.homey.app/u/Gruijter)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-premium/89612/2 "2023-09-17T13:31:03Z")

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Premium is a monthly fee for the cloud based homey. With Homey Pro you get all the functionality that premium has, but without monthly cost.  
Edit: not entirely true I just realized. With Homey Pro you need to pay seperate if you want cloud backups. Think that is 10 euro per year.

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**Author:** ![Karst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f1d935/32.png) [@Karst](https://community.homey.app/u/Karst)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-premium/89612/3 "2023-09-17T15:07:42Z")

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Oké, so if you have a Pro 2023 Premium is included. There is an additional service for daily cloud backup’s and that’s €10 a year.

Thanks for the explanation!

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-premium/89612/4 "2023-09-17T16:35:55Z")

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> [@Karst](#):
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> so if you have a Pro 2023 Premium is included

No, it is something separate for a Homey subscription.  
And no you can’t use a subscription with a Homey Pro.  
But indeed you don’t need it with a Homey Pro. - for you with a Homey Pro it just doesn’t exists. -

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**Author:** ![Torch1969](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torch1969/32/33305_2.png) [@Torch1969](https://community.homey.app/u/Torch1969)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-premium/89612/5 "2023-09-17T18:16:51Z")

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And advanced flow is a one time purchase (€25) for homey pro models 2019 and earlier.

> **[Introducing Advanced Flow for Homey Pro](https://homey.app/en-au/news/introducing-advanced-flow/)**