# Homey Keynote **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-Topic\ **Created:** [September 1, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050 "2021-09-01T14:28:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Edwin\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_d/32/136417_2.png) [@Edwin\_D](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_D)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/101 "2021-09-07T23:27:10Z")
Athom is being, lets put it mildly, liberal with the truth. They claim the same amount of supported devices as Homey Pro. And they suggest that all things wifi will work. But that is really far from the truth. A huge number if wifi devices communicate with Homey over the local network and wont be able to be easily ported as they suggest They claim you can start home automation for free, but with just 5 devices that are already controllable cloud based? Which devices would that be then? ---
**Author:** ![tarumaycry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tarumaycry/32/34267_2.png) [@tarumaycry](https://community.homey.app/u/tarumaycry)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/102 "2021-09-07T23:29:48Z")
Would it have costed them much more for USB C? Athom always seem to be behind when it comes to hardware ---
**Author:** ![DidierVU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/didiervu/32/12458_2.png) [@DidierVU](https://community.homey.app/u/DidierVU)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/103 "2021-09-08T04:46:46Z")
> [@Dijker](#): > > A App needs to be from a Verified developer Yes I know, Shelly has the blue icon in the app store so I assume this is a verified developer? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 4:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/104 "2021-09-08T04:52:19Z")
> [@DidierVU](#): > > But Shelly is an ‘official developer app’ so it should be available in the cloud… > [@DidierVU](#): > > Shelly has the blue icon in the app store so I assume this is a verified developer? Correct, but that doesn’t make it is automatically an App that is compatible with cq should be available on Homey Cloud. That is not an requirement to become Verified Developer. That was what you assumed… ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 5:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/105 "2021-09-08T05:15:07Z")
> [@DidierVU](#): > > I think it will communicate through the Shelly API (on the Shelly servers) ~~The current Shelly app only works locally.~~ In fact, there’s already a version of the Shelly app that works with Homey Cloud. Kudos to its developer! ---
**Author:** ![Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin_van_kekem/32/8187_2.png) [@Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin_van_Kekem)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 7:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/106 "2021-09-08T07:08:33Z")
Devices like which already are cloud connected like Tado, Philips Hue (if you have their bridge) etc. ---
**Author:** ![Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin_van_kekem/32/8187_2.png) [@Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin_van_Kekem)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 7:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/107 "2021-09-08T07:10:43Z")
Oh boy… Where did you find that? ---
**Author:** ![Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin_van_kekem/32/8187_2.png) [@Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin_van_Kekem)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 8:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/108 "2021-09-08T08:04:18Z")
Homey Pro will still be local ---
**Author:** ![ralfvd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ralfvd/32/16441_2.png) [@ralfvd](https://community.homey.app/u/ralfvd)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 9:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/109 "2021-09-08T09:33:53Z")
It is on the developer page: ![Screenshot 2021-09-08 at 11.33.36](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/d/8d99de50fab4103b60a8dd96e925bd09923c19e2.png) ---
**Author:** ![Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin_van_kekem/32/8187_2.png) [@Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin_van_Kekem)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/110 "2021-09-08T09:39:10Z")
Oef, I wonder how that will pan out… ---
**Author:** ![Emile](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/emile/32/115314_2.png) [@Emile](https://community.homey.app/u/Emile)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 9:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/111 "2021-09-08T09:42:52Z")
Hey all! I’ve created a post with a FAQ about our announcement. This should clear some things up. > [@The new Homey & Homey Bridge FAQ](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-homey-bridge-faq/51291): > > Hey everyone! Yesterday’s keynote has definitely created some questions we didn’t anticipate, especially for Homey (Classic) and Homey Pro users. In this post I’d like to answer some questions I see many of our customers have. So let’s go! Will Homey Pro be discontinued in the future? Absolutely not. Homey Pro is of extreme importance to our company — not only monetary, but also for the community and great apps. We have great things planned for Homey Pro I can’t wait to share. Soon™! Will H… ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/112 "2021-09-08T12:27:29Z")
Thanks! Maybe adding it also to the keynote Youtube is an option? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/113 "2021-09-08T13:05:31Z")
A Q I didn’t find here (sorry if I missed it): When a cloud / bridge user decides to upgrade to a Pro, which is a real scenario I think: Is there a way to migrate the existing flows for instance? (I have no clue how many hours I put in all my flows, but to do it all over again… rather not). Or is it possible to create a one off backup, which can be restored on the Pro? +1 if the paired bridge devices can be migrated too, but I can imagine that’s _a bridge too far_ and not possible. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Edwin\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_d/32/136417_2.png) [@Edwin\_D](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_D)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/114 "2021-09-08T18:36:55Z")
If an app cannot have custom settings it will also mean a lot of tools apps that designed to make automation easier are also not easily supported. e.g. Heimdahl is not useable if all settings need to be exactly right at pairing and can then never be changed without deleting the paired device and destroying related flows. That is not helping starting users. I guess most users will discover they need more within a month will either quit or move to Homey Pro. I assume Athom counts on the latter. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 5:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/115 "2021-09-09T05:13:21Z")
I wonder if “utility apps” (apps that don’t provide actual device support) will be allowed to run in the Cloud at all. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 10:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/116 "2021-09-09T10:23:24Z")
> [@Edwin\_D](#): > > or move to Homey Pro. I assume Athom counts on the latter. There’s no migration tool (yet) afaik. Some flowcards have different code ID’s… it’s not 1 on 1, or ‘the same with less possibilities’ Migration to a Pro at the moment is “Start all over again”. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/117 "2021-09-09T13:17:09Z")
The answer: nope ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/a/da3a2be5df37063ef48e267809aa677bc1a63e54.png) ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/118 "2021-09-09T13:41:25Z")
Yes!!! _ **Heimdall** _ isn’t in Tools! . . oh, wait,… No settings page, no app to app communication… ---
**Author:** ![glenn\_clough](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/glenn_clough/32/9666_2.png) [@glenn\_clough](https://community.homey.app/u/glenn_clough)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/119 "2021-09-11T22:22:54Z")
there was a comment that the cloud controlled bridge would be impressively fast, im guessing you would need to be in the EU for that? down in the southern half of the world, the latency might be a bit bigger… and how do they achieve the always connected, how much data will be constantly being sent to the cloud… not everyone has unlimited 1Gig connections ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050/120 "2021-09-11T22:49:02Z")
Afaik it runs on amazon servers. The amount of it’s general data usage will be published somewhere someday I expect. (I’m not recommending to install [this app](https://community.homey.app/t/data-usage-extremely-high-with-hue-app-installed/17310) then…) From what you write, I can only say, consider a Pro with zigbee / z-wave / local wifi devices. In theory it can run offline. [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050.md?page=5) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-keynote/51050.md?page=7)