# Homey Energy | Megathread

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457>\
**Category:** Energy\
**Tags:** homey-pro-2023, homey-cloud, homey-pro-mini\
**Created:** [December 10, 2024, 9:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457 "2024-12-10T09:26:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 16

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**Author:** ![Torbjorn\_Melbye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torbjorn_melbye/32/18194_2.png) [@Torbjorn\_Melbye](https://community.homey.app/u/Torbjorn_Melbye)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 9:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/308 "2024-12-19T09:27:09Z")

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Well, you can adjust the update interval, and I have set mine to 5 seconds.

 ![1000009233](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/e/ee6e3682cb16519d4f840fbcb3ebc58a95c601bc.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![cscheiene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/cscheiene/32/58218_2.png) [@cscheiene](https://community.homey.app/u/cscheiene)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 9:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/309 "2024-12-19T09:51:05Z")

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Then I think that the difference shouldn’t be as much as you are experiencing.

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**Author:** ![GeL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gel/32/17161_2.png) [@GeL](https://community.homey.app/u/GeL)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/310 "2024-12-19T10:07:11Z")

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@Guus_Dupon One thing you want to know: The bulk users will not show up until they have drawn power / energy for the fist time.

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**Author:** ![Jacob\_Jensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jacob_jensen/32/83155_2.png) [@Jacob\_Jensen](https://community.homey.app/u/Jacob_Jensen)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/311 "2024-12-19T10:15:48Z")

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I have the AMSreader working via MQTT (as per this guide [Homey configuration | amsleser.no Wiki](https://wiki.amsleser.no/en/HomeAutomation/Homey)) with all reading from my power meter but it does not show up as an entry under my energy tab. Any way do get this working?

This is the topic for my import:

```auto
{
    "measure_power": {
        "capability": "measure_power",
        "stateTopic": "ams/meter/import/active",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Power"
    },
    "measure_current.l1": {
        "capability": "measure_current",
        "stateTopic": "ams/meter/l1/current",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Current l1"
    },
    "measure_current.l2": {
        "capability": "measure_current",
        "stateTopic": "ams/meter/l2/current",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Current l2"
    },
    "measure_current.l3": {
        "capability": "measure_current",
        "stateTopic": "ams/meter/l3/current",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Current l3"
    },
    "measure_voltage.l1": {
        "capability": "measure_voltage",
        "stateTopic": "ams/meter/l1/voltage",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Voltage l1"
    },
    "measure_voltage.l2": {
        "capability": "measure_voltage",
        "stateTopic": "ams/meter/l2/voltage",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Voltage l2"
    },
    "measure_voltage.l3": {
        "capability": "measure_voltage",
        "stateTopic": "ams/meter/l3/voltage",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Voltage l3"
    },
    "meter_power.acc": {
        "capability": "meter_power",
        "stateTopic": "ams/meter/import/active/accumulated",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Energy"
    },
    "meter_power.hour": {
        "capability": "meter_power",
        "stateTopic": "ams/realtime/import/hour",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Energy this hour"
    },
    "meter_power.day": {
        "capability": "meter_power",
        "stateTopic": "ams/realtime/import/day",
        "setTopic": "",
        "valueTemplate": "",
        "outputTemplate": "",
        "displayName": "Energy this day"
    }
}

And this is for my Export (solarpanels):

{
"measure_power": {
"capability": "measure_power",
"stateTopic": "ams/meter/export/active",
"setTopic": "",
"valueTemplate": "",
"outputTemplate": "",
"displayName": "export"
},
"meter_power.acc": {
"capability": "meter_power",
"stateTopic": "ams/meter/export/active/accumulated",
"setTopic": "",
"valueTemplate": "",
"outputTemplate": "",
"displayName": "Energy"
},
"meter_power.hour": {
"capability": "meter_power",
"stateTopic": "ams/realtime/export/hour",
"setTopic": "",
"valueTemplate": "",
"outputTemplate": "",
"displayName": "Energy this hour"
},
"meter_power.day": {
"capability": "meter_power",
"stateTopic": "ams/realtime/export/day",
"setTopic": "",
"valueTemplate": "",
"outputTemplate": "",
"displayName": "Energy this day"

}
}

```

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**Author:** ![Torbjorn\_Melbye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/torbjorn_melbye/32/18194_2.png) [@Torbjorn\_Melbye](https://community.homey.app/u/Torbjorn_Melbye)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/312 "2024-12-19T10:18:31Z")

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I wouldn’t think so, no. Any difference at all, pretty much makes the function useless. If I can’t trust the number it has no value.

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**Author:** ![Guus\_Dupon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/guus_dupon/32/114352_2.png) [@Guus\_Dupon](https://community.homey.app/u/Guus_Dupon)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/313 "2024-12-19T10:25:05Z")

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They all have used energy multiple times for hours on end.  
I have no idea any more.  
Now no bulk users are showing. I can add bulk users now but then I need to install them again only for Homey to say they are all ready installed.

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**Author:** ![GeL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gel/32/17161_2.png) [@GeL](https://community.homey.app/u/GeL)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 11:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/314 "2024-12-19T11:14:11Z")

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@Guus_Dupon If your devices (e.g. INNR) are not showing up in the Bulk users but do show correct data in their respective devices (e.g Power / Energy) you could install PBTH (if you don’t have it yet) and set each of your energy devices to a PBTH device as input. Then set those PBTH devices to “Exluded from Energy” : “No” and your physical devices to “Yes”. I’ve done this and it has a lot of advantages because you can click on the PBTH device in your bulk user list and see all the yearly / montly / daily energy & power in a glance.  
Another advantage is that you can change your input device (change from Zigbee to a Z-WAVE or Matter device) and keep all the existing data, so if the device is monitoring a boiler, you will keep the data for that boiler, even after changing the physical device.  
It think this should even be standard part of the Energy app.

See mine hereunder, no physical devices, only PBTH devices.

 ![Screenshot 2024-12-19 at 12.04.14](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/2/925da4861983777ce3a3099bb13a777d6f8efa99.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![OH2TH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/oh2th/32/111414_2.png) [@OH2TH](https://community.homey.app/u/OH2TH)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 6:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/315 "2024-12-24T06:27:01Z")

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Split this topic on December 24, 2024, 6:27am UTC

> Moved 10 posts to the app specific topic: [[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-power-by-the-hour-insights-per-hour-day-month-and-year/20535/2787)

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**Author:** ![bjornb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bjornb/32/17214_2.png) [@bjornb](https://community.homey.app/u/bjornb)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/317 "2024-12-19T14:53:17Z")

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I alse experience the same with my Tibber Pulse.  
Perhaps you can use the energy (kWh) counter instead of the live power value?

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**Author:** ![Matteo\_Foroni](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matteo_foroni/32/115664_2.png) [@Matteo\_Foroni](https://community.homey.app/u/Matteo_Foroni)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/318 "2024-12-19T16:26:35Z")

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Help, today find all this entities, any solutions?

I can’t see any data off energy exported…

 ![IMG_4465](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/f/3f1c716fcb9e61ad7adcb88aac41bfac3a32c486.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_4466](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/0/30a9d008fbd8ebdc41506a35cba20e80f642236c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![GeL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gel/32/17161_2.png) [@GeL](https://community.homey.app/u/GeL)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/319 "2024-12-19T16:39:31Z")

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@Matteo_Foroni Did you remove them from Energy? In the Device settings set “Exclude from Energy” to “Yes” and “Tracks total home energy consumption” to “No” except for your P1 meter or other total consumption meter.

EDIT: Sorry, do the last option first.

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**Author:** ![Andreas\_Kjork](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/andreas_kjork/32/8354_2.png) [@Andreas\_Kjork](https://community.homey.app/u/Andreas_Kjork)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/320 "2024-12-19T18:48:12Z")

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My Zaptec Go does not show. Not excluded

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**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 11:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/322 "2024-12-20T11:03:19Z")

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How should the energy device settings for an EV charger device (virtual one) be set?

- cumulative:true?
- class: evcharger?

With `cumulative:true`, the animation is showing energy flow to the charger. But the charger device itself is not displayed with its `measure_power` capability. Is this something that will be added (like battery)?  
Is a meter\_power needed to show the device?

 ![Screenshot_20241220_115855_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/4/f44e78c1d284c2b758d7b7d488b935d7741531b7.jpeg)

@Doekse Do you have some details about it? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Robin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin/32/35437_2.png) [@Robin](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 11:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/323 "2024-12-20T11:50:39Z")

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This can only happen if the device first reported 0kWh and later reported 14630kWh. Is this a regular device or a “virtual” device imported from something like HA?

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**Author:** ![Robin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin/32/35437_2.png) [@Robin](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/324 "2024-12-20T11:53:39Z")

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Do these devices have a meter\_power capability that increases continuously? You can check this in the developer tools \> devices.

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**Author:** ![Robin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin/32/35437_2.png) [@Robin](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/325 "2024-12-20T11:54:58Z")

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This is not final yet, will come later. But definitely not cumulative, please check the docs, they should inform you that cumulative is only for whole home energy meters.

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**Author:** ![Guus\_Dupon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/guus_dupon/32/114352_2.png) [@Guus\_Dupon](https://community.homey.app/u/Guus_Dupon)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/326 "2024-12-20T12:24:48Z")

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They have a meter\_power capability. The number behind it is not changing. How ever. In the homey app they do according to the power that is used.

Is this what you mean?

Correction. The numbers do change. It only takes some time

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**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/327 "2024-12-20T12:44:56Z")

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> [@Robin](#):
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> This can only happen if the device first reported 0kWh and later reported 14630kWh. Is this a regular device or a “virtual” device imported from something like HA?

It’s virtual device from HA community app.  
After adding, the capability is initial (null), then a value is set from the HA entity. Perhaps null is interpreted as 0 in this case?

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**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/328 "2024-12-20T13:00:29Z")

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> [@Robin](#):
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> This is not final yet, will come later. But definitely not cumulative, please check the docs, they should inform you that cumulative is only for whole home energy meters.

Thanks, I will test later when it’s ready.  
Just fyi: the animation (line to EV charger) appered after set the device as cumulative. Without cumulative flag no animation is shown. But perhaps that’s already changed in dev version.

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**Author:** ![Robin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin/32/35437_2.png) [@Robin](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/329 "2024-12-20T14:35:17Z")

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No null is discarded, so that shouldn’t be the case.

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