# Homey Energy | Megathread **URL:** \ **Category:** Energy\ **Tags:** homey-pro-2023, homey-cloud, homey-pro-mini\ **Created:** [December 10, 2024, 9:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457 "2024-12-10T09:26:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/206 "2024-12-13T17:13:01Z")
I looked through the thread and used the search function, but didn’t find anything related to my question. @Doekse, what’s about fixed monthly costs? I don’t know what the electricity price is calculated in the Netherlands, but in Germany we have to pay monthly fixed costs. So it would be necessary to include these fixed costs somewhere. Something similar applies to solar energy. If you export your solar energy to the public grid, you get money for every kilowatt hour, if registered. Are there plans to integrate this? ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/207 "2024-12-13T17:14:26Z")
Scroll all the way down and click customize, you’ll find tariffs there. ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/208 "2024-12-13T17:16:44Z")
Same applies in The Netherlands. I can imagine that Homey Energy is all about usage and less about the total cost of energy. ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/209 "2024-12-13T17:26:28Z")
Danee, do you mean this? ![IMG_0078](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/b/1b8c56d548e09f67f7206d55e400ad3fdd309c9f.jpeg) These are only the pure electricity costs per kWh without fixed costs. But I would also like to be able to take the monthly fixed costs into account. @Henk_Renting, that could be. But at the end it’s all about money, and that’s why I think it makes sense. Btw, in the PbtH App from @Gruijter it’s also possible to take the monthly fixed costs into account. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/210 "2024-12-13T18:11:23Z")
> [@Kim\_Kokholm](#): > > Is battery supported? Soon, not yet (said in the podcast), but there is a part about this in the docs: > **[Energy | Homey Apps SDK](https://apps.developer.homey.app/the-basics/devices/energy#home-batteries)** > > By defining the energy usage (or generation) of the devices your app supports users can generate detailed reports of their energy consumption. ---
**Author:** ![Faceless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/faceless/32/113873_2.png) [@Faceless](https://community.homey.app/u/Faceless)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/211 "2024-12-13T19:15:08Z")
Hi, For the HomeWizard kWh meter you are not considering the energy returned, so it is reporting usage only: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/9/19d84a84d33418fcb0eb0270ddefb4443865ab4b.png) And from the HomeWizard app: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/6/56df4a7992f49dc5ef478fa35f9899c580d84f9b.png) So, you are not calculating the 10.0 kWh that has been returned, the actual usage should have been 1.4kWh. The product: > **[Order the kWh Meter 1-Phase in our store - HomeWizard](https://www.homewizard.com/shop/wi-fi-kwh-meter-1-phase/)** > > Place the kWh Meter 1-Phase in your meter box and track the solar panel output and energy consumption of your charging station. Get it today! The App in Homey: > **[HomeWizard](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/com.homewizard/HomeWizard/)** > > Helps you understand and save ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/212 "2024-12-13T19:24:08Z")
Ah, ok, I misunderstood your question, my contract has no fixed monthly fee, just usage. ---
**Author:** ![Andreas\_Kjork](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/andreas_kjork/32/8354_2.png) [@Andreas\_Kjork](https://community.homey.app/u/Andreas_Kjork)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/213 "2024-12-13T20:02:42Z")
No. This is the homey app ![IMG_6733](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/3/c3c9c56874cfe398ea4a6509f4ced16b4f589600.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rogier\_Verheugen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rogier_verheugen/32/77406_2.png) [@Rogier\_Verheugen](https://community.homey.app/u/Rogier_Verheugen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/214 "2024-12-13T20:24:42Z")
Hi @Doekse / @Harwin ![1000007609](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/d/9ded8f9cb4ccb13de497a3027a51e48f68698a9f.jpeg) Why does the animation showing me I’m collecting solar power… at 21:20? It’s pitch dark outside. Rogier ---
**Author:** ![Doekse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/doekse/32/109415_2.png) [@Doekse](https://community.homey.app/u/Doekse)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/215 "2024-12-13T20:25:52Z")
It is still generating 260 Wh from what it looks like ---
**Author:** ![Doekse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/doekse/32/109415_2.png) [@Doekse](https://community.homey.app/u/Doekse)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/216 "2024-12-13T20:27:10Z")
Are you using the meter to monitor the power usage of your entire house or just a single device? ---
**Author:** ![Rogier\_Verheugen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rogier_verheugen/32/77406_2.png) [@Rogier\_Verheugen](https://community.homey.app/u/Rogier_Verheugen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/217 "2024-12-13T20:34:58Z")
@Doekse ![1000007611](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/f/2f340068bc1e24a44a06bcd3980023637b72ca70.jpeg) Solar stopped around 15:30. I’m also living in the Netherlands. Again it is 21:30 right now. Rogier ---
**Author:** ![Faceless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/faceless/32/113873_2.png) [@Faceless](https://community.homey.app/u/Faceless)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/219 "2024-12-13T20:47:04Z")
There is a group of devices behind it, also a battery that is returning energy, so it can return energy. It has separate counters for that: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/e/8e88a7a5835be652f6a42f79d169e6dbc050877e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/220 "2024-12-13T21:07:09Z")
I think the app needs to be updated to define which power measurement is in/out. > **[Energy | Homey Apps SDK](https://apps.developer.homey.app/the-basics/devices/energy#measuring-devices)** > > By defining the energy usage (or generation) of the devices your app supports users can generate detailed reports of their energy consumption. Inform the app developer and give hime some time… and perhaps a mulled wine via Paypal 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guus\_Dupon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/guus_dupon/32/114352_2.png) [@Guus\_Dupon](https://community.homey.app/u/Guus_Dupon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/221 "2024-12-13T21:38:17Z")
Thank you for the tips. I will not buy innr any more and if they break I will go over to one of your suggestions ---
**Author:** ![Rogier\_Verheugen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rogier_verheugen/32/77406_2.png) [@Rogier\_Verheugen](https://community.homey.app/u/Rogier_Verheugen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/222 "2024-12-13T22:02:34Z")
Hi @Doekse 260 Wh is Watt hour. Which means the total it generates this day. It is not what it is generating at this moment. Watts. In the animation it shows a yellow line from the solar panels to the house. While it is pitch dark outside. This is technically not possible. Unless you are telling me it is the moon that is generating solar energy. 🤣 Rogier. ---
**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/223 "2024-12-13T22:26:25Z")
> [@Rogier\_Verheugen](#): > > Unless you are telling me it is the moon that is generating solar energy If the inverter is running (and battery not empty these days), it is showing sometimes \<1W. So yes, there can be a minimal measurement that’s hidden in the chart (rounded). ---
**Author:** ![Rogier\_Verheugen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rogier_verheugen/32/77406_2.png) [@Rogier\_Verheugen](https://community.homey.app/u/Rogier_Verheugen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/224 "2024-12-13T22:41:11Z")
Hi @RonnyW ( @Doekse ). IMO this ‘rounded’ value should be taken in account. It does not make sense that the solar power line is showing a yellow animation in the middle of the night. Edit: I don’t have batteries Rogier ---
**Author:** ![Edwin\_Biemond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_biemond/32/72686_2.png) [@Edwin\_Biemond](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_Biemond)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/225 "2024-12-13T23:23:11Z")
@Doekse hey, I am the maintainer of the solaredge etc modbus app and got a question how I can show the batteries on the energy tab, got 2 and I see the 2 inverters but not my batteries. my devices classes equals to solarpanel and can also have batteries on it because that is how it works. battery alone cannot work and its need it hybrid inverter and is on 1 modbus connection. so cannot do battery as device class. another questions how can I connect or see existing devices on the energy tab. got my airco and charger etc as heavy consumers thanks Edwin ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_Bareman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/steven_bareman/32/31404_2.png) [@Steven\_Bareman](https://community.homey.app/u/Steven_Bareman)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457/226 "2024-12-14T01:04:16Z")
@Rogier_Verheugen and @Doekse i have the same with Enphase solar panels in the IOS App. Not on Android 🤷🏼‍♂️ [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457.md?page=10) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-energy-megathread/123457.md?page=12)