# Homey Devices and Usability - Easy to very Complex (Nerdy) **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [February 2, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-devices-and-usability-easy-to-very-complex-nerdy/103070 "2024-02-02T22:35:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Peter\_Marup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_marup/32/79690_2.png) [@Peter\_Marup](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Marup)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-devices-and-usability-easy-to-very-complex-nerdy/103070/1 "2024-02-02T22:35:24Z")
Yeah. Or not. This is a home product and I use it as a consumer. If Homey is a nerd only product, demanding that you must use hours to read every post on the Internet in order to keep it running as expected, there should be a ”For geeks only” label on it. I didn’t find one on mine. Is there a recommendation in the Shelly app for static IP? If, so I have missed that. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-devices-and-usability-easy-to-very-complex-nerdy/103070/2 "2024-02-02T23:51:48Z")
Wow… So, now you started to realize it comes down to a bad case of _ **RTFM** _, you just keep on pointing fingers. I can tell you this, from the many Homey apps, this Shelly app really has one of the clearest and most extended howto’s, FAQ and troubleshoot forum sections. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 5:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-devices-and-usability-easy-to-very-complex-nerdy/103070/3 "2024-02-03T05:15:08Z")
> [@Peter\_Marup](#): > > I didn’t find one on mine. Remarks like this make it _very_ difficult for community developers to keep on providing app updates and support for free. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-devices-and-usability-easy-to-very-complex-nerdy/103070/4 "2024-02-03T16:40:05Z")
> [@Peter\_Marup](#): > > This is a home product and I use it as a consumer. > If Homey is a nerd only product, demanding that you must use hours to read every post on the Internet in order to keep it running as expected, there should be a ”For geeks only” label on it. > I didn’t find one on mine. > I already thought about replying my reaction below to this from Peter before the other (Latest) reactions where this thread went verry off-topic. Realizing that, I think there is still a valid discussion but that again isn’t a discussion for the [[APP][Pro&Cloud] Shelly](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-cloud-shelly/765) Topic. > Therefore Moved to a new Topic, Homey Devices and Usability - Easy to very Complex (Nerdy) > @Peter_Marup If you prefer this Topic not starting with your Post let me know I can fix that. > ”For geeks only” label on it, I didn’t find one on mine. Correct, but there is a sort of Usability Label on every product, To categorize A = verry Simple to N = Verry Complex (Nerdy) It is hidden behind the Price Tag. 😉 And surprisingly it often is inversely proportional to the Price in it’s category of devices. To show you: - Category A = Very Easy – Homey Pro isn’t cheap, but pretty simple to use in it self; - Category B = pretty Easy to C = Easy – Z-wave devices (Often with Official Apps, but also Community Apps), often simple to connect; – Zigbee devices (fe IKEA Trådfri) – Many Athom official Apps, HUE using the Bridge, – Cloud Connected with nice API Authorizations (fe NetAtmo and many others) - Category N = Very Complex (Nerdy) – Devices, often cheap / verry affordable and often widely available in supermarkets etc. but either No official integration and sometimes needs a Developer Account (like Tuya) or custom (Hacked) Access using Tokens, sometime needs Fixed IP to get it stable Lucky Homey still provides the option to have Category N connected, Nice for the nerds and many are happy to Help here on the community. But as we often Say: Cheap is Expensive… > Moved out of the Shelly Topic. ---
**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-devices-and-usability-easy-to-very-complex-nerdy/103070/5 "2024-02-03T16:47:34Z")
> [@Peter\_Marup](#): > > Is there a recommendation in the Shelly app for static IP? The answer is **NO** , static IP can be set in your router, not in an App. ---
**Author:** ![Mike1233](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mike1233/32/20991_2.png) [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-devices-and-usability-easy-to-very-complex-nerdy/103070/6 "2024-02-03T19:51:57Z")
> [@Peter\_Marup](#): > > Is there a recommendation in the Shelly app for static IP? I give my own WiFi devices a fixed ip address as much as possible. Then an app or program has mostly no trouble finding the devices used after e.g. a reboot or a power failure of the router and all the devices get a new ip by DHCP.