# Homey Cloud Backup vs HCB&RWA **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [February 10, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-backup-vs-hcb-rwa/25741 "2020-02-10T20:10:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-backup-vs-hcb-rwa/25741/1 "2020-02-10T20:10:17Z")
Comparing the new released [Homey Cloud Backup](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-backup-part-of-homey-subscription/24523) against my unfinished hobby project. To give you an idea how both backup options differ and what the intended use is. Imho everyone dependent on a Homey needs the [Homey+ subscription](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-subscription/24522) but think for the geeks HCB&RWA can be a nice addition. [![Untitled](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/2/12ac29d9673f0856b1a7703824f455da08e44b99.png)](https://tables.commoninja.com/lp/03544473-1746-49f0-989b-513971068df2) Just let me know if you think I should continue development and add extra functionality or that it is not necessary anymore and I should spend my time for other things. [Homey Community Backup & Restore Web App (HCB&RWA)](https://community.homey.app/t/community-backup-restore-for-homey-v2-and-up-alpha-version/13727). ---
**Author:** ![Canedje](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/canedje/32/8324_2.png) [@Canedje](https://community.homey.app/u/Canedje)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-backup-vs-hcb-rwa/25741/2 "2020-02-10T20:23:50Z")
Is it correct that the Homey back-up not back-up the logica in the more section? As mentioned in your overview.? Or Logics as you mentioned is something different? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-backup-vs-hcb-rwa/25741/3 "2020-02-10T20:36:23Z")
> [@Canedje](#): > > Logics Not sure where you exact point to 🤔 You can see the Athom Backup/Restore as almost 100% (only except the Reinstall of the newest apps from the store and no Backup/Restore of CLI installed apps.) If you meant this. (Click the image te view online 😉 ) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/5/050e211b3f9af1fc1258939d7c9ce4ed94bf57b5.png) If you Remove one or more objects (Alarms, Logics, Flows etc) from Homey and want to restore just that ones or couple of objects [Community Backup & Restore for Homey v2 and Up! [Alpha Version]](https://community.homey.app/t/community-backup-restore-for-homey-v2-and-up-alpha-version/13727) is probably a better solution as you can restore these individually. ---
**Author:** ![Canedje](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/canedje/32/8324_2.png) [@Canedje](https://community.homey.app/u/Canedje)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-backup-vs-hcb-rwa/25741/4 "2020-02-10T20:51:34Z")
Thanks for your answer. It helps you mentioned it back-ups about 100%. I did translate individual the wrong way. You ment a individual logic or alarm separated from the total is not possible ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-backup-vs-hcb-rwa/25741/5 "2020-02-10T22:20:16Z")
@Dijker I think you have done an amazing job and helped a lot of users here… Probably the best you ever could, without having the resources that Athom have. It made clear how necessery a backup and restore functionality is. Now that the “official” backup and restore is here from Athom itself, I think we would be so glad if you would develop other great apps for Homey. The ones which are not there yet. I would be thankful, I think a lot of users would too! Keep up the good work and thanks again!