# Homey backup, running out of backups **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [June 28, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781 "2020-06-28T14:01:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/1 "2020-06-28T14:01:43Z")
Yesterday I ran into an issue (other post) thet in the end made me decide to put back a backup. It solved the issue šŸ˜ƒ (so my contribution payed off) BUT I did run into a weird issuee with the backups. I wanted to put back my backup of 3 days agoo (i was sure the system was stable at the At time) It turned out thst backup was no longer available! The last few days homey had been making multiple backups per day. So my 7 days were reduced to just 3 days backup and multiple options for yesterday. That sucks! made a report to athom) i decided to quickly remove several of yesterdays backups to at least make sure I would not loose the older ones. It forced me to perform a backup sooner then I wanted (did not want to risk loosing my option to backup the 3 day old) Luckily backup solved my issue (so it does not really suck that much šŸ™‚) Screenshot just shows one (realised too late to make a screenshot) there where 2 more on 27 june ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/9/c9df1fe31e547dca4df00ff12dc5ee972f5db3b8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/2 "2020-06-28T14:27:22Z")
Seems a bit pointless to make three backups thĆ”t close together in time (also as an aside: every developer knows to _not_ schedule automatic stuff between 2 and 3am lest you want to either miss an action Ć³r get a duplicate when daylight savings time changes šŸ˜‚) ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/3 "2020-06-28T18:54:21Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > every developer knows to _not_ schedule automatic stuff between 2 and 3am lest you want to either miss an action Ć³r get a duplicate when daylight savings time changes šŸ˜‚) Didnā€™T even see that one.. but true ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/4 "2020-06-28T18:56:57Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > Seems a bit pointless to make three backups thƔt close together in time It had 2 more close to that time. (I deleted them before realizing to make a screenshot) Its reported to athom.. No idea what would triggger these extra backups. Since we have only 7, these extra backups caused losing 4 days of history backups.. ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/5 "2020-06-28T19:09:55Z")
Reminder for all users that put back a backup: If you have virtual devices or variables that keep track of a status, make sure to set them to the correct status after your backup. My backup (2:58-\>at night) contained the virtual device ā€œits darkā€ (and some others) After putting back that backup during the day it caused some puzzling behaviour of my lights and the alarm. Thought the restore had gone wrong. Luckily I have papertrails always on, which pit me back on track pretty quick ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/6 "2020-06-28T19:20:10Z")
So, after rolling back u have to set all variables again? ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/7 "2020-06-28T19:30:48Z")
Yes, but thats understandable. How can homey knowā€¦ Backup was made at night. When I go to bed I turn the alarm on. So virtual device was set to: ā€œAlarm onā€. When I restored it at 14:00, my alarm was off. Homey restored it setting the status back to ā€œalarm onā€. Its not possible for homey to recover that. But it did result in some unexpected sounds at 1st motion detectionā€¦ The status ā€œits darkā€ would have recovered itself after some time. Its set by lux measurement. But still, that flow is triggered by lux change, so it does take some time. ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/8 "2020-06-29T10:39:57Z")
It is a really important information, that something could go wrong with the Backup. šŸ‘ > [@FKey](#): > > Luckily I have papertrails always on, which pit me back on track pretty quick Could you show me an example how you use papertrails to document the processes meaningfully. I know how papertrails works and can be used, I use it already for some things, but i just do not have a useful system. ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/9 "2020-06-29T19:24:03Z")
My ssytem is pretty simple 1. Every Then section contains a papertrails card. The text on that card is : then - /name of the flow/ 2. If i have a long timer in that section. I add a second card with a delay the same as the timer. Same text but with a timer addition 3. If I have an else I add a card there with else - /name of the flow/ In some case I add tags to the card too. For example if I have a AND that compares temp, I add both temp tags ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/10 "2020-06-30T02:54:40Z")
Okay, thanks for the info. Iā€™m gonna try it out. Because it bugs me that you canā€™t track which flows have been running at what time. ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/11 "2020-06-30T11:23:31Z")
There used to be an option to automatically add these cards. But athomdid not allow that anymore Dont know if it came back/ will come back @Dijker any change this will come back? Or a workaround to simplify? ---
**Author:** ![Eternity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eternity/32/102113_2.png) [@Eternity](https://community.homey.app/u/Eternity)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/12 "2020-07-13T15:46:06Z")
Where are my backups? If I go to [Mijn back-ups | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/account/backups/) all I see is: ![Schermafbeelding 2020-07-13 om 17.45.21](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/8/480b7a062c874d2f4b96e455e9eae48dc70e532d.jpeg) That scares me a bit ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/13 "2020-07-13T16:15:52Z")
Ask Athom. ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/14 "2020-07-13T16:45:01Z")
You can do that via [support@athom.com](mailto:support@athom.com) ---
**Author:** ![Eternity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eternity/32/102113_2.png) [@Eternity](https://community.homey.app/u/Eternity)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-running-out-of-backups/31781/15 "2020-07-13T19:52:42Z")
It is up again. Athom just wanted to scare meā€¦