# Homey 2023 / 2026 unstability **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** homey-pro, crash, restart\ **Created:** [January 26, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096 "2026-01-26T15:50:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Draper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jonathan_draper/32/33978_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Draper](https://community.homey.app/u/Jonathan_Draper)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/21 "2026-01-29T10:21:24Z")
I found one more curious correlation with the first of my two CPU temp spikes. Weirdly the amount of free storage in Homey seems to have gone up markedly at the exact same moment as the start of the first CPU temp spike. I made no change to Homey e.g. installed/uninstalled apps at that time to explain it. No such correlation with the 2nd CPU temp spike though. Complete speculation based on very little understanding of how these things actually work but I wonder if Homey cleared out some of the very large Swap file which I had before I did the CM4 mod? ![Screenshot 2026-01-29 at 10.16.20](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/6/760e707553831a0eb1181aeaf9970316ff8fe3b0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 10:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/22 "2026-01-29T10:51:47Z")
The swap is 1GB, so it”s not it but Athom is performing during startup some cleanups…but never seen such change, eg. 150MB like in your case. ![obrazek](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/d/5dfd8e5ed54d957721538be9b4a31d484fc0c6d8.png) (in my case for USED STORAGE, no change during reboot or shorthly after…) > [@Undertaker](#): > > try the experimental firmware v12.11.0-rc.3 I’m on that version since Day1 and… ![obrazek](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/d/cd5ddd7d053cfa8b0e33d53c69145ccb68604368.png) ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/23 "2026-01-29T19:51:33Z")
Seems there are more reports after all… > [@Homey randomly reboots](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-randomly-reboots/147236): > > I have my Homey for around 16 days now and it keeps rebooting on random moments. I can’t seem to figure out what is going on. Its currently running the latest firmware 12.10.0, its connected to wifi (3 meters away from router), I’m using the Homey dongle and it has a couple of 433, RTS and Zigbee devices (Ikea/Agara) connected next to my Enphase Gateway and Inverters. Is there a way to get some more light on this situation, is there a log that can be looked into or an app that can log stuff? (a… > [@HP23 instabil, regelmäßige unexpected Reboots](https://community.homey.app/t/hp23-instabil-regelmassige-unexpected-reboots/149981): > > Guten Morgen zusammen, ich bin mehr als am verzweifeln. Mein HP23 ist die meiste Zeit sehr instabil, was sich darin äußert, dass er regelmäßig rebooted, ich kaum etwas an advanced flows machen kann. Die Flows sehen dann z.b. so aus: Ich bin mir nicht ganz sicher, wann das ganze begonnen hat, ja, letztes Jahr November, da bin ich mal mit dem RAM an die Grenzen gestoßen, dann habe ich mal kurzfristig meinen alten HP19 via homeylink rea… ---
**Author:** ![nyjets](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nyjets/32/32090_2.png) [@nyjets](https://community.homey.app/u/nyjets)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/24 "2026-01-30T04:41:43Z")
Apart from the reboots - do you have such effects in the advanced flows as well? ![Flow3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/0/a0911ad60b39d9623d815fcdd852e20961dc7c7c.png) ![Flow2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/5/b5101c0aa52b591e243e748b9f9d389213bd2fc4.png) ![Flow1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/1/4/1426efacc5a9f0bda26026e328ae222298b9b8c4.png) ![Flow screenshot_20260124](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/7/7742189c1aef5025f07b1626bc580147a7eac3bf.png) On my side I haven´t found a pattern yet - sometimes I have 3 unexpected reboots on a day, and then, my homey runs for 3 days without a reboot, but always with those flow-effects. ---
**Author:** ![nyjets](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nyjets/32/32090_2.png) [@nyjets](https://community.homey.app/u/nyjets)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 4:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/25 "2026-01-30T04:47:25Z")
or something like this - testing a flow - I see this since 5 minutes: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/b/eb70a89d1b64f27762775e381b6a9afe59a9d90c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2026, 9:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/26 "2026-01-30T09:00:26Z")
Well, somehow the Homey Web interface when updating Advanced Flows got very slow, not updating so fluently like in the past and yes, I observe it already longer time. ---
**Author:** ![Koen\_van\_Daalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/koen_van_daalen/32/17092_2.png) [@Koen\_van\_Daalen](https://community.homey.app/u/Koen_van_Daalen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 9:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/27 "2026-02-01T09:14:21Z")
I have the same issues as described here on my homey 2023. Got desperate and bought the 2026 version to get the exact same instability. Currently having such remorse that I gave up and are migrating to Home Assistant. This however is quite challenging as i have many complex automations. So today I start migrating first to homey SHS to see if it is hardware or software related. I did make a support call to homey, but the response was so disappointing that I gave up immediately. I think it was totally unacceptable. Together with long lasting Zigbee issues, moving to HA seems the only way out on the long run. Sad that this product is still to unstable to really rely upon. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2026, 9:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/28 "2026-02-01T09:29:34Z")
Give it a try, I also raised their attention but we need more data to have this issues narrowed down… ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Draper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jonathan_draper/32/33978_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Draper](https://community.homey.app/u/Jonathan_Draper)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/29 "2026-02-04T15:24:49Z")
Not sure how everyone else is getting on but stability has got worse not better for me over past few days. Previously I had a couple of random restarts a few days apart. Now I’ve had 3 in 36 hours. Only thing that changed was I let Homey do the update to 12.11 stable firmware. No correlations I can see with that or anything else. Two of the reboots have been since then but the first wasn’t for quite a few hours after the firmware upgrade. I’m still seeing random periods when temperature rises by ~5C sustained for several hours then drops back down again but these are not correlated with CPU load changes and I’ve now been able to disprove my earlier hypothesis about them being linked to the LED red ring showing (it isn’t; LED ring is staying off throughout). Homey’s job number 1 is to be a rock solid place for my automations to just work and it’s failing on that front now and with no clear route to it ever getting better. It’s all a bit sad. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/30 "2026-02-04T15:37:15Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Draper](#): > > Previously I had a couple of random restarts a few days apart. Now I’ve had 3 in 36 hours. It happened to me already as well and yet, day after it was again stable…so wait another day. After last update it’s not worse however, it’s still random. So far I haven’t seen the correlation, which would point to the common ground though ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Draper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jonathan_draper/32/33978_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Draper](https://community.homey.app/u/Jonathan_Draper)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/31 "2026-02-04T18:56:15Z")
And now this evening a whole new nightmare. It seems Homey has now lost contact with a whole load of my Zigbee devices and none of them can be repaired exactly is things were when I first migrated. This includes all my radiators. The “fix” for that (which obviously didn’t last) was to reset my Zigbee network and spend half a day repairing all the devices. Homey is rapidly becoming completely unusable. I am forced to replace it with something otherwise I cannot control my house and I don’t have multiple tens of hours to put into trying to get it to work again with no expectation that any of the fixes will last or be stable. This really is catastrophic for my Homey experience. I didn’t think anything would push me away to another platform (if nothing else for the extreme high cost in time of doing so) but this really might. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/32 "2026-02-04T19:37:34Z")
Well, a pity you did ask before performing the reset, but just by any chance, what [Homey Developer Tools](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/zigbee) was showing in the field Current command and Firmware version ? Frankly, it’s not normal and very rare seeing Zigbee mesh would get destroyed just like this… But please note this has probably nothing to do with the random reboots/instabilities we are facing here. Btw despite instabilities, I’m running with 82 Zigbee devices with Homey… ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Draper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jonathan_draper/32/33978_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Draper](https://community.homey.app/u/Jonathan_Draper)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/33 "2026-02-04T19:41:21Z")
> [@Sharkys](#): > > [Homey Developer Tools](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/zigbee) I didn’t reset Zigbee network today - that was the fix I had to do a few weeks ago to overcome the problem where Homey is incapable of restoring the backup of a large Zigbee network. Since these random reboots I have done nothing to Zigbee (other than note that tonight all the same devices that were broken when I restored from backup in that previous adventure were again broken tonight). Current command: IDLE Firmware version: 7.4.2-0 ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/34 "2026-02-04T19:58:12Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Draper](#): > > The “fix” for that (which obviously didn’t last) was to reset my Zigbee network > [@Jonathan\_Draper](#): > > I didn’t reset Zigbee network today Sorry, I’m getting lost here. Anyway, instabilities (unexpected reboots) as such are not influencing Zigbee / mesh stability. And yes, if you were restoring eg. from HP23 to HP26(CM4 swap?), immediately after the restore you might have noticed that Zigbee might be not alright. But that’s not itself necessarily problem of Homey, could be specific to the devices you are using. Previously you wrote about CM4 swap for that the best is to perform USB backup and restore, not the cloud one but again - I did the CM4 swap recently as well (to exclude HW issues of previous CM4) and all my 82 Zigbees are working fine, I didn’t have to touch anything since then…. Yet, I’m also user of Zigbee2MQTT in parallel to my Homey - it’s also not absolutely without problems… but that’s another discussion. ---
**Author:** ![SunBeech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sunbeech/32/111391_2.png) [@SunBeech](https://community.homey.app/u/SunBeech)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/35 "2026-02-04T20:48:14Z")
> [@Sharkys](#): > > I did the CM4 swap recently as well (to exclude HW issues of previous CM4) and all my 82 Zigbees are working fine, I didn’t have to touch anything since then…. I think that is because you did not change to a different Zigbee chip. It’s exactly the same. You only changed the CM. When migrating to another Homey device (so with a physically different Zigbee chip) the issues [mentioned in this topic](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-issue-with-homey-pro-2026-migrated-from-homey-pro-early-2023-using-usb-restore/147238/1) may arise, when you have a larger Zigbee network. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Draper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jonathan_draper/32/33978_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Draper](https://community.homey.app/u/Jonathan_Draper)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/36 "2026-02-04T21:00:30Z")
Yes that’s right, I was there in the topic you linked to, discussing it. That was a few weeks ago. After I did a Zigbee network reset and repaired everything, all seemed fine for several weeks. Until now. I’m not sure why you’re confident the re-emergence of this issue has nothing to do with the reboots. Nothing else on my system changed in the meantime and the re-emergence of this Zigbee issue occurred after one of my random reboots. I don’t know whether it’s related and I don’t think you do either. I’m just trying to contribute all the behaviour I’m seeing associated with these random reboots in the hope that some help can come. I’m frustrated because I rely on Homey for my house to be warm and lit so when it randomly decides to break in multiple ways repeatedly for no reason, that’s really quite annoying. This being a user forum, I’m not complaining at other users, more commiserating with my fellow sufferers. ---
**Author:** ![SunBeech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sunbeech/32/111391_2.png) [@SunBeech](https://community.homey.app/u/SunBeech)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/37 "2026-02-04T21:04:27Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Draper](#): > > I’m not sure why you’re confident the re-emergence of this issue has nothing to do with the reboots. I assume this question/comment is meant for @Sharkys 😊. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Draper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jonathan_draper/32/33978_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Draper](https://community.homey.app/u/Jonathan_Draper)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/38 "2026-02-04T21:05:16Z")
Oh dear, I am sorry @SunBeech . Yes it was. It’s clearly been a long day… ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/39 "2026-02-04T21:08:05Z")
But that was not the case of @Jonathan_Draper , right ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2026, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096/40 "2026-02-04T21:28:28Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Draper](#): > > I’m not sure why you’re confident the re-emergence of this issue has nothing to do with the reboots Can you actually confirm the data I showed it the first post of this thread : > [@Homey 2023 / 2026 unstability](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096): > > Hi, looking for someone having since Dezember (+/-) regular/random un-expected Homey reboots and on [https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/system](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/system) : rebootReason “unexpected” in combination with no undervoltage problems : I’m trying to narrow down the cause, if I will find someone like me….seems not to be widespread but it would be not 1st time I’m among the first of such impacted users. Based on my analysis, homey-pro container dies and forces OS self-reboot as reco… That would be some confirmation you have similar cause for reboots like me, unfortunately haven’t seen it. Second, re being “confident”, I’m not - but to troubleshoot ZigBee issues, there are many many steps you shall normally do to confirm the last options is related to the random reboots - it would be yet would be very odd (during the crash the homey-pro is terminating, the zigbee demon finishes in controlled manner so I would not see any relevancy, but…anything if possible). eg . - - reconnect all non-battery powered Zigbee routers - - check if you don’t have Wi-Fi interference, eg. could be neighbors could be your router autoselecting channel etc - - ensure in case you have ZigBee lights, they are not powered off - - ensure you have enough ZigBee routers - - avoid some devices like particular Ikea ones - - unplug Homey fully from electricity - - also check the power supply or USB cable (I myself experienced faulty USB cable just based on inability to perform USB backup) - etc. Yet, you start directly repairing ZigBee…have you done/check any of above? [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2023-2026-unstability/150096.md?page=3)