# Homey 2.0.0 Experimental discussion \[EN\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [December 6, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963 "2018-12-06T16:03:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:12am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/473 "2019-01-11T09:12:22Z")
Its a very big difference, by your logic Athom should not release any updates to Homey unless every single bug and issue is fixed. If you were to follow your logic - version 1.5 would never have been released because it still have bugs in it identified in v1.4 - or for that matter no version ever of homey would ever be released. I guess I also disagree about there being an angle in which to argue about as well. ---
**Author:** ![KonradWalsh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/konradwalsh/32/147_2.png) [@KonradWalsh](https://community.homey.app/u/KonradWalsh)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/474 "2019-01-11T09:25:11Z")
One example v2 - 4 DIFFERENT brands of motion sensors… All have issues with tracking the motion changes - Coincidence? Athom blame the developer of the devices… hmmm… v1.5 - same motions sensors work fine 100% of the time… Motions sensors are FUNDAMENTAL to automation. If you dont have a fundamental issue worked out and a solution in testing, then how can you put a 5 days release schedule out there… Well you can, if you dont care about fixing the bug… which is what my point was… ---
**Author:** ![Xtasy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xtasy/32/12671_2.png) [@Xtasy](https://community.homey.app/u/Xtasy)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/475 "2019-01-11T09:35:51Z")
I just added another Fibaro Double Switch 2 to the Wall but there seems to be something that screwed up. First I checked in [developer.athome.com](http://developer.athome.com) and spotted that I have 3 unkown nodes but I don’t know why they aren’t properly recognized or might they ‘ghost’ devices from deleted z-waves modules which somehow remained in the system? Also when I added my wallswitch 2 I received the notification at the end of the inclusion that no z-wave device was found yet when I try again to include it I get the message that it has already been added but I don’t seem to be able finding the device anywhere 😂 Edit: Reset the device and included it again. So it work besides that it was weirdly fast. It identified the z-wave module as slave and bam done. Usually it does security exchange, runs 21 parameters etc. ---
**Author:** ![Blarp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blarp/32/10278_2.png) [@Blarp](https://community.homey.app/u/Blarp)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 9:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/476 "2019-01-11T09:59:06Z")
> [@KonradWalsh](#): > > if you dont care about fixing the bug Well, if that is the case, _and sometimes the optics indeed are like that_, then we have bought our self into a world of pain. Then we better head for the hills But every company has constraints it has to work with, in time scope people budget. There is just no unlimited variant in the real world. They have to make choices. And ultimately we as costumers, too ---
**Author:** ![Xtasy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xtasy/32/12671_2.png) [@Xtasy](https://community.homey.app/u/Xtasy)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/477 "2019-01-11T10:25:51Z")
Well communication goes a long way. I feel a little bit more involvement of athom in the forum would strengthen the community tremendously. ---
**Author:** ![azid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/azid/32/8566_2.png) [@azid](https://community.homey.app/u/azid)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/478 "2019-01-11T11:21:48Z")
## Homey v2.0.0 experimental Homey v2.0 is here! Get the Homey app and enjoy the biggest update we’ve ever made! [https://firmware.athom.com/](https://firmware.athom.com/) ---
**Author:** ![KonradWalsh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/konradwalsh/32/147_2.png) [@KonradWalsh](https://community.homey.app/u/KonradWalsh)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/479 "2019-01-11T11:33:40Z")
alll i can do is 😥🤔😪 ---
**Author:** ![Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jeroen_somhorst/32/184_2.png) [@Jeroen\_Somhorst](https://community.homey.app/u/Jeroen_Somhorst)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/480 "2019-01-11T11:42:25Z")
Ok, so instead of polishing it a bit further they just throw it out in the open. Yeh… great idea. Wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/481 "2019-01-11T11:50:08Z")
Then you can keep on polishing, you need draw a line somewhere so they can sell homeys again. They will keep polishing when it is released, and people aren’t forced to update either (you still need to download the Gen 2 app, and press the update button manually) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/482 "2019-01-11T11:53:47Z")
Still expirimental ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/483 "2019-01-11T11:54:41Z")
Sure, but the timer runs out in 4 days. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 11:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/484 "2019-01-11T11:55:28Z")
Lotts off work to do 😉 ---
**Author:** ![KonradWalsh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/konradwalsh/32/147_2.png) [@KonradWalsh](https://community.homey.app/u/KonradWalsh)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/485 "2019-01-11T12:08:01Z")
> [@Caseda](#): > > Then you can keep on polishing, you need draw a line somewhere so they can sell homeys again. > > They will keep polishing when it is released, and people aren’t forced to update either (you still need to download the Gen 2 app, and press the update button manually) Really? You go on the website and they are promoting this and the very nature of the home automation enthusiast is to tinker.. what else is someone going to do… ESPECIALLY when they hit bugs in 1.5 - they assume.. oh I am sure **Version 2.0** is miles ahead on these bugs… It si after all, the biggest update ever done.. oh.. wait.. no.. it hasnt fixed this stuff… actually..wait.. stuff is now missing that I did have… and they are screwed then And then.. they come on here and **get flamed** for complaining ---
**Author:** ![Sjalabert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sjalabert/32/11432_2.png) [@Sjalabert](https://community.homey.app/u/Sjalabert)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/486 "2019-01-11T12:27:52Z")
I think the mobile app will become available. ---
**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/487 "2019-01-11T13:41:49Z")
![11-003](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/2/22f2ac63ac28250363df0de020af37a8974e3ff6.png) **EXPERIMENTAL** so, whats the difference? ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/488 "2019-01-11T14:06:45Z")
Honestly im not sure i’ve personally always kinda viewed it as RC = (Open) Beta Experimental = [Release Candidate](https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Software_release_life_cycle#/Release_candidate) ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/489 "2019-01-11T14:09:33Z")
The RC’s are on the experimental channel too, aren’t they? So: - experimental = “not stable” - RC = (open) beta - on-experimental-but-not-an-RC-or-beta-or-alpha = release candidate (GM) ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/490 "2019-01-11T14:13:29Z")
I start to reply to you … then gave up started turning into a [Abbott & Costello Who’s On First](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV-fg) Routine. ---
**Author:** ![psy0rz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/psy0rz/32/1801_2.png) [@psy0rz](https://community.homey.app/u/psy0rz)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/491 "2019-01-12T00:19:46Z")
To me the rc’s were alpha versions and the current 2.0 feels like beta1. ---
**Author:** ![RTimmer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rtimmer/32/591_2.png) [@RTimmer](https://community.homey.app/u/RTimmer)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963/492 "2019-01-12T13:23:50Z")
So, it looks like we are going to 2.0 in a couple of days no matter what. Now, I was wondering, if you load the experimental now, will the download for the final be less, or is it going to download a full image anyway? In the first scenario I would be tempted to download now, in the latter scenario I will just hold off until final, choices, choices, choices [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963.md?page=21) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-2-0-0-experimental-discussion-en/4963.md?page=23)