# HomeKit or Homeykit **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Created:** [October 30, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433 "2018-10-30T06:56:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Toon\_Vos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@Toon\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Toon_Vos)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/1 "2018-10-30T06:56:54Z")
Seems to me both are aiming to do exactly the same. Why are there two apps? Which of the two is preferable and why? ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/michael/32/110520_2.png) [@Michael](https://community.homey.app/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/2 "2018-10-30T17:40:19Z")
I use Homeykit so i can control everything with siri, super easy to setup and works perfectly… ---
**Author:** ![Julien\_Moors](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/julien_moors/32/26538_2.png) [@Julien\_Moors](https://community.homey.app/u/Julien_Moors)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/3 "2018-10-30T17:42:29Z")
I tried both ! Homeykit use to always forget my devices (add or delete). Homekit seams to be more stable (for my case). Julien ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/michael/32/110520_2.png) [@Michael](https://community.homey.app/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/4 "2018-11-01T17:33:01Z")
2 Days later, After you said that you used Homekit instead of Homeykit i tried Homekit again and it supports more devices than Homeykit does. I’ve switched now, Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Homey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mark_homey/32/9202_2.png) [@Mark\_Homey](https://community.homey.app/u/Mark_Homey)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/5 "2018-11-01T18:52:20Z")
Homekit doesn’t work outside wifi, only inside wifi. ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/michael/32/110520_2.png) [@Michael](https://community.homey.app/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/6 "2018-11-01T23:09:27Z")
Guess i don’t need it to work outside of my wifi network but thanks for the info. ---
**Author:** ![Toon\_Vos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@Toon\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Toon_Vos)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 6:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/7 "2018-11-02T06:48:27Z")
Homeykit doesn’t work outside WIFI neither I think? At least without a Homekit hub (apple TV/iPad) this is. Homeykit is stable for me the post period. ---
**Author:** ![Jorden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jorden/32/8856_2.png) [@Jorden](https://community.homey.app/u/Jorden)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/8 "2018-11-02T14:14:25Z")
If you setup your AppleTV (or even with Ipad I think) to be a Homekit hub, it works outside as well. I always get a push message from Homekit on my phone if my Nuki lock state changes. I use Homeykit by the way, for no particular reason (it works, so didn’t see a reason to try Homekit app) ---
**Author:** ![Michael](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/michael/32/110520_2.png) [@Michael](https://community.homey.app/u/Michael)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/9 "2018-11-02T14:51:11Z")
I wanted to know if there was a difference in the approach, i couldn’t really find one, Homeykit had everything in alphabetical order and homekit doesn’t but then i noticed that my Sonos was available with homekit but not with homeykit so now i can pause, resume play next and forward without adding virtual devices and stuff. That’s the main reason i switched but both Homeykit and Homekit are great and for me those apps are the initial reason i bought Homey, so i could use Siri (strapped on my wrist) to control everything… ---
**Author:** ![mbnn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mbnn/32/36655_2.png) [@mbnn](https://community.homey.app/u/mbnn)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/10 "2018-11-26T12:48:22Z")
I prefer [https://apps.athom.com/app/com.sprut.homekit](https://apps.athom.com/app/com.sprut.homekit) that one, however I did notice everytime I restart Homey, i have to change the settings in homekit per device again (as if it loses the settings per device). What I love about the Sprut homekit plugin is that you can define which devices show up in homekit. ---
**Author:** ![Macca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/macca/32/2722_2.png) [@Macca](https://community.homey.app/u/Macca)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 10:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/homekit-or-homeykit/3433/11 "2018-12-22T10:48:34Z")
Hi, Has anyone come across this issue in Homey where the devices under Homekit are no longer showing? I’ve installed the latest Homey Firmware 1.5.13. I’ve tried removing Homekit and reinstalling but same issue remains. ![Homekit](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/f/ffd75e8ea724189e5f7b4a4bc5a183012b2f0c40.png)