# Heimdall - Let Homey watch over your home

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134>\
**Category:** Apps\
**Tags:** app, official, security, homey-pro:mini:shs, heimdall\
**Created:** [August 22, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134 "2018-08-22T13:41:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 8:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1606 "2025-01-13T08:30:06Z")

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I think they forgot. It can’t be by design. If you have a cool text to speech. It integrates better than any other solution. And then you throw that away while using hardware that has an audio out by default…  
But USB C should be able to have an audio out.

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**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1607 "2025-01-13T16:08:13Z")

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Let’s not get into a discussion on this matter in this topic please.

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**Author:** ![Yhaugom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/yhaugom/32/88359_2.png) [@Yhaugom](https://community.homey.app/u/Yhaugom)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 5:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1608 "2025-01-15T05:45:00Z")

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You could play messages from Homey timeline to Sonos.  
I do this, and check where the message is coming from to determine if I want it played or not. For example the origin tag that is equivalent for ‘Sikkerhet’ in Norwegian (security I would guess in English).  
Not perfect but something.  
For custom messages i post to the timeline, that I only want on the timeline and not broadcasted, I add the string ‘(silent)’ to it and check for that in the ‘and- card’.  
If message contains ‘(silent)’, do not play.

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**Author:** ![Ludvig\_Gjertsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ludvig_gjertsen/32/122723_2.png) [@Ludvig\_Gjertsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Ludvig_Gjertsen)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1610 "2025-01-21T02:33:16Z")

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![IMG_3318](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/b/ebe33cd9cd33f5be0186be4e80d88572e2074cfa.jpeg)  
I can’t find this flow starter and i can’t find away around it! Am i just stupid?  
Some things makes me feel so dumb

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**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 9:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1611 "2025-01-21T09:50:22Z")

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Hi Ludvig,

Welcome here, but in order to be able to help you I’d like to know what you want to achieve, what do you want to make happen?

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**Author:** ![Ludvig\_Gjertsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ludvig_gjertsen/32/122723_2.png) [@Ludvig\_Gjertsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Ludvig_Gjertsen)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 10:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1612 "2025-01-21T10:23:26Z")

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I just want a flow to start and react when the surveillance mode is changed to a certain mode. For example when the surveillance mode is changed to armed it reacts to that but not when I change to partially armed or disarmed.  
like this.  
 ![Skärmklipp](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/8/c827f08407b3940194f5854ff781b27ea009644d.png)

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_Otto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronald_otto/32/51743_2.png) [@Ronald\_Otto](https://community.homey.app/u/Ronald_Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1613 "2025-01-21T11:13:59Z")

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Like this:

 ![afbeelding](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/5/05050765a59b04224673c94cb42f0908a8d12372.png)

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**Author:** ![Ludvig\_Gjertsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ludvig_gjertsen/32/122723_2.png) [@Ludvig\_Gjertsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Ludvig_Gjertsen)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2025, 11:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1614 "2025-01-21T11:34:35Z")

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Thanks a lot!  
Sometimes I really questioning my brain capacity

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**Author:** ![Jakob\_Thinggaard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jakob_thinggaard/32/121229_2.png) [@Jakob\_Thinggaard](https://community.homey.app/u/Jakob_Thinggaard)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1615 "2025-01-24T21:46:31Z")

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Hey [DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)

First of all, thanks for making Heimdall and really appreciate reading your support and input in the above posts. It already helped quite a lot.

I need that last 2% to complete a very cool flow for my Heimdall. I am interested in the following flow:

Activate the alarm =\> **IF** there are any windows/doors open that is **NOT the main door** =\> Start countdown followed by arming. IF a window/door other than main door **is** open, I want the flow to cancel and prevent the system from arming and say in the speakers which room/zone to check.

The only way i can think of this working is with a flow like below. In reality, it actually works as intended. The only downside is it takes 30 seconds (the delay set in Heimdall) for the system to finish countdown and arming, and only then to disarm and activate the speaker. In that time, i would have left the building.

How can i skip the 30 sec countdown and prevent the arming and start speaking in sonos right away?

Below timeline shows one of my windows that was open preventing the system to arm.

Also - Is there a more robust way to indicate the specific sensor (main door) instead of writing this out? Can i create a variable or a tag or so?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/f/6f3ff8295f87e00de978c033a78297bf41c8d0ab.png)

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/4/9/493eb333ae1347c5f0d77a5aafdc195c599941ad.png)

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**Author:** ![Jakob\_Thinggaard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jakob_thinggaard/32/121229_2.png) [@Jakob\_Thinggaard](https://community.homey.app/u/Jakob_Thinggaard)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1616 "2025-01-24T22:08:00Z")

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> [@DaneedeKruyff](#):
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> Devices that have not communicated in the last 24 hours will always be reported to the **History View** on the **Dashboard** , the only way to keep them from creating a line would be to make them communicate.

Is there a way to make them communicate without having to actively open/close all 30 sensors in my home every day 😅

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**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1617 "2025-01-25T14:49:36Z")

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Did you configure _Perform check before Arming Delay_ in de **pre-arming check** settings?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/f/3f57460148169b2dbc1096a6ef6a10e68c7294e6.png)

That should take care of the 30 seconds.

Also, do you have a specific need for the **Surveillance mode is Armed** condition, I’d remove that if I were you.

And for battery operated sensors there’s no specific way to make them communicate daily with Homey if the device manufacturer didn’t include a function for it.  
So, think of it this way, I saved you a trip to the Gym, just ga around your house and trigger all sensors 😃 You’re welcome 😂 🤣

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**Author:** ![Jakob\_Thinggaard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jakob_thinggaard/32/121229_2.png) [@Jakob\_Thinggaard](https://community.homey.app/u/Jakob_Thinggaard)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1618 "2025-01-25T21:11:49Z")

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> [@DaneedeKruyff](#):
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> Did you configure _Perform check before Arming Delay_ in de **pre-arming check** settings?

Yes, i configured like below.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/0/7007119f32c23e62ac7a18ab12ac2e6c6a55ced4.png)

Normally, if all doors are closed the keypad beeps with red-flash for 20 seconds. If a window is open, I get a very quick red-beep, then a green-beep, then back to red-beeping for 20 seconds. The system is disarmed and speaker is activated immediately as the open door is identified, but the arming beep continues for 20 sec. Any ideas of how to cancel the beeping? I have the Frient Intelligent Keypad.

> [@DaneedeKruyff](#):
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> Also, do you have a specific need for the **Surveillance mode is Armed** condition, I’d remove that if I were you.

Yes, I have a card that specifically does this for ARMED mode (see image in previous post), as I still want to be able to delay closing windows/doors with PARTIALLY ARMED mode or even sleep with the window open. Any specific reasons you want me to remove that card?

> [@DaneedeKruyff](#):
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> And for battery operated sensors there’s no specific way to make them communicate daily with Homey if the device manufacturer didn’t include a function for it.  
> So, think of it this way, I saved you a trip to the Gym, just ga around your house and trigger all sensors 😃 You’re welcome 😂 🤣

I have 30 Aqara window sensors - so thats quite a trip every day. If I don’t open and close the windows daily, what impact will this have on Heimdall? If they are logged as not reported, are they then excluded from the alarm system? Or is it simply just nice to know?

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**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1619 "2025-01-26T18:04:15Z")

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> [@Jakob\_Thinggaard](#):
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> The system is disarmed and speaker is activated immediately as the open door is identified, but the arming beep continues for 20 sec.

This indicates to me that the Keypad doesn’t handle the switch to disarmed in the right way, the arming isn’t cancelled. I’m afraid that’s not something I can fix from this app.

> [@Jakob\_Thinggaard](#):
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> Yes, I have a card that specifically does this for ARMED mode (see image in previous post), as I still want to be able to delay closing windows/doors with PARTIALLY ARMED mode or even sleep with the window open. Any specific reasons you want me to remove that card?

That’s valid, I see many flows where people add redundant cards that may interfere with what they want to achieve, that’s why I asked.

> [@Jakob\_Thinggaard](#):
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> I have 30 Aqara window sensors - so thats quite a trip every day. If I don’t open and close the windows daily, what impact will this have on Heimdall? If they are logged as not reported, are they then excluded from the alarm system? Or is it simply just nice to know?

There’s no impact on _ **Heimdall** _ whatsoever. It’s just a warning for the user, they will not be excluded.

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**Author:** ![4x4\_Pete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/4x4_pete/32/113286_2.png) [@4x4\_Pete](https://community.homey.app/u/4x4_Pete)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1620 "2025-01-27T00:16:23Z")

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Hi @DaneedeKruyff  
first of all thanks for the brilliant Heimdall app, which I am using extensively! 👍

I, however have questions regarding the pre-arming check:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/5/6507aecc2a93afc9f85cc5d50b9ea303478787a1.png)

Does “Check motion sensor(s)” and “Check door/window sensor(s)” check all sensors of these types or only those activated in Heimdall´s device settings list?

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**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 6:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1621 "2025-01-27T06:52:34Z")

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Hi Pete,

Everything is explained in the first post of this topic and the FAQ

> [@Heimdall - Let Homey watch over your home](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134#heading--prearming):
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> This app enables you to use your Homey as a surveillance system. Supported languagesnetherlands Dutch uk English de German fr French it Italian sweden Swedish norway Norwegian es Spanish denmark Danish Links App Store: [Heimdall App for Homey | Homey](https://apps.athom.com/app/com.uc.heimdall) Github: [GitHub - daneedk/com.uc.heimdall: Heimdall for Homey](https://github.com/daneedk/com.uc.heimdall) issues: [GitHub · Where software is built](https://github.com/daneedk/com.uc.heimdall/issues) FAQ: [Heimdall - Let Homey watch over your home - #2 by DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/t/134/2) Change log: [Heimdall - Let Homey watch o…](https://community.homey.app/t/134/3)

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**Author:** ![4x4\_Pete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/4x4_pete/32/113286_2.png) [@4x4\_Pete](https://community.homey.app/u/4x4_Pete)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 10:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1622 "2025-01-27T10:29:14Z")

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Hi @DaneedeKruyff ,

from

> [@DaneedeKruyff](#):
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> Hi @PhilS, when the **Pre-arming check** is run _ **Heimdall** _ cycles through all devices and checks their state. If a sensor is included in the particular **Surveillance Mode** that is set and the sensor state is _true_ a message is sent.

I infer, that only sensors should be reported, that have a surveillance mode set.

Recently, however, Heimdall reported a sensor, that I had revoved from surveillance some time before. This reporting was done through the when-card “Sensor active at Status Check”.  
The card “Sensor active at arming” on the contrary had, never reported any sensor without set surveillance mode.  
That made me question, if “Sensor active at Status Check” maybe reports all sensors while “Sensor active at arming” does that only for those with a surveillance mode set.  
Could this be the case?

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**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1623 "2025-01-27T18:42:16Z")

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Hi Pete,

Yes, the **Sensor active at arming** card will only be triggered after setting a **Surveillance Mode** and will only check the sensors in the particular **Surveillance Mode** you’re switching to.

The **Sensor active at Status Check** will only be triggered after you used the **Check Status of all sensors**

Btw. if you use the [web client](https://my.homey.app/), add a flowcard and hover over the I you’ll get a description of what the card does…Same goes for the [app](https://homey.app/en-gb/app/com.uc.heimdall/Heimdall/) in the App Store.

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**Author:** ![4x4\_Pete](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/4x4_pete/32/113286_2.png) [@4x4\_Pete](https://community.homey.app/u/4x4_Pete)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1624 "2025-01-27T23:30:28Z")

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Hi Danee,  
thanks for you reply.  
I think it would be great to have a tag on the **Sensor active at Status Check** card, that indicates if the sensor that triggered the event is part of the surveilance. One might be more interested in such sensors and maybe take some specific actions like extending the activation delay etc…  
Could this come with a future update? 😉

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**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1625 "2025-01-28T19:18:57Z")

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Hi Pete,

I don’t really feel like spending time on adding tags to the flow card, I consider it an edge case when using the **Sensor active at Status Check** to configure _ **Heimdall** _. I think this is something you’ll do once or twice and the desired result can also be achieved wit already available functionality. I suggest you use the **Pre-Arming check** , once for the **Partially Armed** and once for **Armed** state, this will provide you with the same information. Also, It doesn’t matter for _ **Heimdall** _ if a sensor is in open or motion detected state when arming.

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 10:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heimdall-let-homey-watch-over-your-home/134/1626 "2025-02-06T10:39:27Z")

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Hallo Danee

I noticed that the following entry is always generated twice in the timeline:  
„Überwachungsmodus auf Entsichert gestellt“  
=\> Monitoring mode set to Unsecured

What could be the cause?

 ![IMG_0052](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/f/5fe0178af5ff413d3e1ced4b16527ac162ad0225.jpeg)

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