# Heiman smoke detector **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Tags:** z-wave\ **Created:** [October 2, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344 "2018-10-02T04:13:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JR-homey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jr-homey/32/2768_2.png) [@JR-homey](https://community.homey.app/u/JR-homey)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/21 "2018-12-09T16:04:58Z")
Hello guys, I’ve also (blind) bought some of these via ALI. They can be added as a general z-wave device and are inactive when viewing in the homey app. I presume they become active when smoke is detected (has anyone tried this?). In that way hypothetically you can write a flow to make them work. Regards, Jeroen ---
**Author:** ![Shredder230](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/shredder230/32/12462_2.png) [@Shredder230](https://community.homey.app/u/Shredder230)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/22 "2018-12-13T12:17:06Z")
I havent tried it. I added them as general zigbee (i have the zigbee version, heiman sells both versions) and pressed the test button and it didnt swich on in the flow. Also i tried to make a flow where if one of the smokedetectors would be active, it would also push the others in active (i have three) but it didn’t work if i ran the test flow option. With this i wanted to make a flow that would active all the three smoke detectors if one gets active. ---
**Author:** ![RAS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ras/32/7811_2.png) [@RAS](https://community.homey.app/u/RAS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/23 "2018-12-18T18:00:40Z")
I see an app is there for the smoke detector. And it works fine, hope the temp sensor and door contact also being supported soon. ---
**Author:** ![Shredder230](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/shredder230/32/12462_2.png) [@Shredder230](https://community.homey.app/u/Shredder230)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/24 "2018-12-22T12:56:41Z")
i found the app for zwave. still have to wait for the zigbee option. hope this is still work in process ---
**Author:** ![Rhanin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rhanin/32/2323_2.png) [@Rhanin](https://community.homey.app/u/Rhanin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/25 "2018-12-26T15:58:11Z")
I’m curious about progress too. I now have two of the zigbee version (2 more on the way) and was hoping to include them in my home security system. I’m unsure about the on/off state in case of fire, but sadly it isn’t linked to the siren. ---
**Author:** ![rolandb5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rolandb5](https://community.homey.app/u/rolandb5)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 7:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/26 "2018-12-27T07:59:52Z")
Thanks for creating the Zwave version!! ---
**Author:** ![Rhanin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rhanin/32/2323_2.png) [@Rhanin](https://community.homey.app/u/Rhanin)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 9:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/27 "2019-01-01T09:51:43Z")
As an update, I tested the on/off state with smoke, but it does not do anything. Until the inclusion of the zigbee sensors in the app, these are just dumb smoke sensors. ---
**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/28 "2019-01-01T11:54:46Z")
Which is logical, because the sensor is sleeping (and not listening continuously) to preserve the battery. ---
**Author:** ![Hipstarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/hipstarr/32/941_2.png) [@Hipstarr](https://community.homey.app/u/Hipstarr)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/29 "2019-01-01T14:06:14Z")
Thanks for the great app! I finally can include my smoke sensors. However I can’t join the smoke sensors together so when the one upstairs detects smoke, the ones downstairs wil start the alarm too. Is this even possible with this type of smoke sensor? I now have a workaround with a flow for each smoke sensor assiociated with the general alarms… But a happy homey user over here! ---
**Author:** ![Shredder230](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/shredder230/32/12462_2.png) [@Shredder230](https://community.homey.app/u/Shredder230)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/30 "2019-01-14T21:38:27Z")
@TedTolboom is there any timeframe for.the zigbee inclusion into the app? ---
**Author:** ![Priknr1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/priknr1/32/558_2.png) [@Priknr1](https://community.homey.app/u/Priknr1)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/31 "2019-02-27T06:49:28Z")
@TedTolboom @eval Is it possible, or will it be possible to turn on the alarm of the smoke detector from a flow? @eval Maybe it is best you create a topic here on the forum for the Heiman app, so that all questions regarding the app will be in one topic (it is done like this for most apps) ---
**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 6:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/32 "2019-02-27T06:56:42Z")
> [@Priknr1](#): > > @TedTolboom @eval > Is it possible, or will it be possible to turn on the alarm of the smoke detector from a flow No, this is not possible. ---
**Author:** ![Priknr1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/priknr1/32/558_2.png) [@Priknr1](https://community.homey.app/u/Priknr1)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/33 "2019-02-27T07:50:12Z")
@eval @TedTolboom I see that in the assiciations group 2 is used to send a command class basic on. Is it possible for you to try if this command class can be used to turn on the siren? Or have you already looked at possibilities to turn on the siren from Homey? I have contacted heiman to ask this question also, if they reply to me, I can have a look at the app myself. If this can be built in, I intend to buy the sensors myself 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/34 "2019-02-27T08:46:50Z")
The association group only provides a trigger from the sensor to turn on other devices (like the Heiman siren device) based on the smoke alarm to be triggered and has nothing to do with an option to turn on the siren itself. Based on the documentation, I tried to trigger the siren with a custom flow card; but not successfull. So based on this test, I don’t expect it to be possible. Looking forward to the feedback / confirmation of Heiman ---
**Author:** ![Shredder230](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/shredder230/32/12462_2.png) [@Shredder230](https://community.homey.app/u/Shredder230)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/35 "2019-02-27T11:17:46Z")
@eval @TedTolboom Dear both, As written before i have bought the heiman smokedetector Zigbee. In the first phase when you where developing the app it was written that in a later stage the app would also support Zigbee, but i understand now from the repo of @eval in the app store that it will not be support. I am quite new to all Zigbee and Z-wave so it might be a stupid question, but could you please let me know if it is technically not possible to link them or if it is to much of development and therefore it is not on your road map ? Because i want to decide if i wait untill somebody develops the Zigbee support or throw the three smokedetectors away and buy a different kind. ---
**Author:** ![RayCokes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/raycokes/32/12452_2.png) [@RayCokes](https://community.homey.app/u/RayCokes)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/36 "2019-08-31T16:59:37Z")
Strange I had to attach it as homey zigbee and it says Heiman zwave ![homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/d/d876b0ddec1b76597f780f6d9d2b8fb98547fc29.jpeg) ![homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/e/e9c4bc34409ef144a780b3b6fdd51445b650925f.jpeg) ![IMG_20190831_185855](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/d/d2fed8c6c4400b43c3eea5515a174d39b522728a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/37 "2019-08-31T18:03:27Z")
I don’t see z-wave anywhere on your pictures?, only zigbee ---
**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/39 "2019-08-31T19:50:16Z")
That is a bug in the Homey app… also visible for other Zigbee devices. Please report it as an issue to Athom ---
**Author:** ![Shredder230](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/shredder230/32/12462_2.png) [@Shredder230](https://community.homey.app/u/Shredder230)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/40 "2019-09-01T09:46:30Z")
@RayCokes j ust to understand. you have heiman ziggbee smokedetector and you are able to link them to homey.? but you cant use them in any flows or something right? ---
**Author:** ![Shredder230](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/shredder230/32/12462_2.png) [@Shredder230](https://community.homey.app/u/Shredder230)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 10:12am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/heiman-smoke-detector/2344/42 "2019-09-01T10:12:21Z")
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