# H.O.O.P. (Hope) - Homey Object Oriented Programming **URL:** \ **Category:** Apps\ **Tags:** app, tools, flow\ **Created:** [March 4, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709 "2021-03-04T18:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![HuisCHovens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/huischovens/32/16973_2.png) [@HuisCHovens](https://community.homey.app/u/HuisCHovens)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/169 "2023-06-04T17:23:08Z")
How can it get work again? I miss this beautiful extension. or how works it in Device app from Arie? i cant find? ---
**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/170 "2023-06-05T06:56:05Z")
You cant atm, sorry, HOOP is down because of change api client/secrets. ---
**Author:** ![HuisCHovens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/huischovens/32/16973_2.png) [@HuisCHovens](https://community.homey.app/u/HuisCHovens)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/171 "2023-06-05T15:32:35Z")
Ah oke And it is also not yet possible in the devices app of yours? ---
**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/172 "2023-06-05T17:56:29Z")
No, and i don’t think that will happen, since it would than not be allowed in the Athom Store. I’ll look into getting another key for hoop. ---
**Author:** ![HuisCHovens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/huischovens/32/16973_2.png) [@HuisCHovens](https://community.homey.app/u/HuisCHovens)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/173 "2023-06-05T19:02:49Z")
Oke too bad athom just doesn’t set it up himself. it’s a cool option. And easy to setup. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Cactus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/le_cactus/32/9727_2.png) [@Le\_Cactus](https://community.homey.app/u/Le_Cactus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/174 "2023-06-05T19:25:08Z")
> [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](#): > > I’ll look into getting another key for hoop. Since H.O.O.P. isn’t in the official App Store (only HCS / CLI install) can’t you just use the development keys? As far as I know you can use them without concequence even if you publish your app for installation throegh CLI or HCS ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/175 "2023-06-05T19:32:54Z")
> [@Le\_Cactus](#): > > As far as I know you can use them without concequence even if you publish your app for installation throegh CLI or HCS There was a reason why it was _forcefully_ changed by Athom 😉 So no, **not** without consequences if it is “misused”. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Cactus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/le_cactus/32/9727_2.png) [@Le\_Cactus](https://community.homey.app/u/Le_Cactus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/176 "2023-06-05T19:45:24Z")
I didn’t realize those were the keys that were abandoned. So all apps using those keys should have stoped working? ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 5:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/177 "2023-06-06T05:57:16Z")
Indeed, even their own CLI stopped working until they updated it with new keys. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/178 "2023-06-06T13:28:21Z")
Maybe I get you wrong. It’s true their own CLI stopped working as well, but the tool was updated the same day. I installed the update, and the CLI tool works again ![Screenshot_20230606-152706_Slack](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/9/e928eaf2258c1588611fcf766fd74e42ae2df665.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/179 "2023-06-06T13:38:41Z")
That’s why I said “updated” which is past tense, so it already happend, perhaps should have added a comma in the sentense to make it more clear. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/180 "2023-06-06T13:49:06Z")
I see, one can read it in two ways. I took the ‘wrong’ one probably 😆 ---
**Author:** ![HuisCHovens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/huischovens/32/16973_2.png) [@HuisCHovens](https://community.homey.app/u/HuisCHovens)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709/181 "2023-11-23T18:47:21Z")
change name via a flow. Does this work again via that device app? that other app from @Arie_J_Godschalk [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/h-o-o-p-hope-homey-object-oriented-programming/43709.md?page=8)