# Guesthouse in the garden, to far from main house

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [December 2, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718 "2019-12-02T11:56:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![mbnn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mbnn/32/36655_2.png) [@mbnn](https://community.homey.app/u/mbnn)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 11:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/1 "2019-12-02T11:56:34Z")

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Hello all,

Been using Homey for quite some time now, and love it.  
However, there is one question I still have in my mind. I have a guesthouse/poolhouse about 75mtrs from the main house. I have some z-wave devices there I wanna use. Right now Im using a HC2 Lite there, but ofc that does not integrate with Homey.

Does anyone have any idea how I could get the devices there best to be used and included with my Homey? Or is the HC2 lite the only option (having to use https requests to call them from homey).

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**Author:** ![Tomm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tomm/32/10625_2.png) [@Tomm](https://community.homey.app/u/Tomm)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/2 "2019-12-02T13:54:27Z")

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Sockets or other power points in your garden? Perhaps you can bridge the distance by placing a non-battery operated z-wave device in a switch box at 1 or 2 places to create a mesh.

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**Author:** ![mbnn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mbnn/32/36655_2.png) [@mbnn](https://community.homey.app/u/mbnn)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/3 "2019-12-02T14:13:08Z")

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Hmmm, yeah power points indeed, but then I would need a ‘repeater’ of some sorts I guess.

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/4 "2019-12-02T14:23:09Z")

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For example this one:

> **[Range Extender 6 Z-Wave repeater • Aeotec](https://aeotec.com/z-wave-repeater/)**
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> Z-Wave maximized. Wireless technology isn’t always perfect, that’s why Aeotec makes Range Extender 6 – a simple plug and play device that w...

But I am not sure if this is the solution. Because 75 m is a long distance.

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**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/5 "2019-12-02T14:37:51Z")

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Any mains powered zwave device is a repeater, but 75 meters is indeed a lot.  
There is a maximum of 4 hop devices, so a powered device every +/- 15 meters as the minimum to reach the 75 meters is putting the range of every device to its maximum, if there is nothing in between.  
I would personally not even try that, as even a rainy day can mess it all up.

Only viable option is to keep your HC lite, or buy another Homey which you would couple the same way as the HC lite, so with webhooks

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**Author:** ![mbnn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mbnn/32/36655_2.png) [@mbnn](https://community.homey.app/u/mbnn)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/6 "2019-12-02T14:54:18Z")

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I was wrong about the distance, it’s about 45meters 🙂  
Those Aeotecs work with Homey and can be simply included and put anywhere?

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**Author:** ![Tomm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tomm/32/10625_2.png) [@Tomm](https://community.homey.app/u/Tomm)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/7 "2019-12-02T15:12:28Z")

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Didn’t look up the IP-classification but would not use these outside unprotected.  
Keep in mind that this product is designed as a plug which makes it a little harder to put it away in a switch box.

Perhaps you can make the best out of the situation by installing some Fibaro Switches/Dimmers.  
These can be placed in a switch box more easily and you can probably also automate an outdoor light with it.

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/8 "2019-12-02T15:43:17Z")

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> [@mbnn](#):
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> Those Aeotecs work with Homey and can be simply included

> **[Aeotec](https://homey.app/de-de/app/com.aeotec/Aeotec/)**
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> Intelligente Automatisierung

> [@mbnn](#):
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> and put anywhere?

Yes and no. The repeater must be protected from rain, high humidity and frost!

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/4/54a198af2dfd6740af6c22881bd56a65ac23cd43.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/9 "2019-12-02T15:50:32Z")

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@Tomm, I agree with you, but the signal strength should not be as good as with pure repeaters.

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**Author:** ![Emil\_Lichtenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/emil_lichtenberg/32/12333_2.png) [@Emil\_Lichtenberg](https://community.homey.app/u/Emil_Lichtenberg)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/10 "2019-12-02T16:52:35Z")

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Maybe:

> [@Homey Pro Antenna modification](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-antenna-mod/2928):
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> Open Range Homey Zigbee and Wlan antenna mod. The range is 40% better. +1

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**Author:** ![mbnn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mbnn/32/36655_2.png) [@mbnn](https://community.homey.app/u/mbnn)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/11 "2019-12-04T13:22:02Z")

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Homey wont even connect to the AEOTEC range extender 6, been trying for hours now.  
Adding… then it fails and again, removing z-wave device and re-adding. It wont pick it up, also not when connected within 1 meter from homey.

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/12 "2019-12-04T15:43:24Z")

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Did you installed the Aeotec App? If not please do it.

Then make a factory reset of the range extender:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/f/0/f09157aad8811346082a1a83570eec73978ef4cd.jpeg)

And then try to include the range extender again with a distance of **maximum 5 cm** to Homey.

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/13 "2019-12-04T15:55:27Z")

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Someone made [a nice post](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-adding-a-z-wave-device-to-homey/19148) about that.

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**Author:** ![mbnn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mbnn/32/36655_2.png) [@mbnn](https://community.homey.app/u/mbnn)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/14 "2019-12-04T16:07:45Z")

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Tried all that as said above (reset, fully) re-adding it again with 5cm next to homey, same result.  
It says ‘adding device’ and then time out or no z-wave device added ☹

And yes I did add the aeotec plugin.

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/15 "2019-12-04T16:09:12Z")

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And also the remove node part?

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**Author:** ![mbnn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mbnn/32/36655_2.png) [@mbnn](https://community.homey.app/u/mbnn)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/16 "2019-12-04T17:49:45Z")

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Yep, same result ☹

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/17 "2019-12-04T19:53:55Z")

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Then I have no idea either, I’m sorry.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/18 "2019-12-05T00:33:41Z")

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Maybe a dumb question, but wouldn’t WiFi stuff from Shelly make things easier?

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**Author:** ![xAPPO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xappo/32/13726_2.png) [@xAPPO](https://community.homey.app/u/xAPPO)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/19 "2019-12-05T01:26:06Z")

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> [@Caseda](#):
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> Only viable option is to keep your HC lite, or buy another Homey which you would couple the same way as the HC lite, so with webhooks

or even 2 Homeys with MQTT, auto discovery should work for devices.

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/guesthouse-in-the-garden-to-far-from-main-house/21718/20 "2019-12-05T07:26:09Z")

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You can also get outdoor antennas, but I don’t know how to use them with Homey or a compatible device. Unfortunately you can’t connect an external antenna (except the mod).

> **[Z-Wave Antenne, Außenantenne 1m Kabel, SMA Stecker](https://shop.intuitech.de/home/728-z-wave-antenne-aussenantenne-1m-kabel-sma-stecker.html)**
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> Z-Wave Dipolantenne passned für FIBARO Home Center 2 und FIBARO Home Center Lite.Selbstverständlich können Sie die Antenne auch für andere Zentrallen, Funk Sende/ Empfänger verwenden. Die Antenne verfügt über einen SMA Stecker.

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