# Gardena what is needed? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [May 26, 2019, 9:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644 "2019-05-26T09:54:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/21 "2023-05-29T19:10:02Z")
Hi Nils, > [@NGH](#): > > I can’t believe that a hub of Gardena is really needed I think it’s because Gardena uses a closed wireless system? Like tado°, Somfy io and such Sometimes things are technically not possible, or the manufacturers don’t want you to use other sytems to control their products. I’d suggest you write to - Gardena when you want to use it with Homey without Gardena hub; - Athom support to request Ble support for Gardena gear, while Athom is the dev of the (only?) Homey Gardena app: ![Screenshot_20230529-210017_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/7/77b291861a204cd9975130e65dfd41bfc13e7b48.jpeg) It’s a pity Homey can’t ‘just’ connect to devices like your smartphone can. BUT the Bluetooth range is up to 5 meters, like Arie stated already, seems to me pretty useless for garden tools imho. ---
**Author:** ![NGH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ngh/32/33100_2.png) [@NGH](https://community.homey.app/u/NGH)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 7:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/22 "2023-05-30T07:20:41Z")
> [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > I think it’s because Gardena uses a closed wireless system? Like tado°, Somfy io and such I kinda doubt that … as you state, it ues Ble which is supported by Homey. The only “closed” thing could be the signals they use. Wouldn’t it be possible to get these signals through reverse engineering the app or intercepting the signal with something like a programm or device listening on the frequency, like a man in the middle attack? I am pretty sure other devices which work with Homey w/o a hub also were not planned to work with Homey out of the box but manufacturers want to sell hubs, too … ---
**Author:** ![NGH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ngh/32/33100_2.png) [@NGH](https://community.homey.app/u/NGH)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 7:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/23 "2023-05-30T07:24:26Z")
Oh and yes, I contacted support indeed 😉 ---
**Author:** ![NGH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ngh/32/33100_2.png) [@NGH](https://community.homey.app/u/NGH)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 7:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/24 "2023-05-30T07:31:07Z")
Furthermore: Just did some research and found some very interesting things: A pdf of a presentation that deals with legal issues due to the fact that the software is open source. The pdf aso gives details on the hardware and also where to find the code: > **[2019-10-28-GARDENA-ELCE2019.pdf](https://elinux.org/images/8/82/2019-10-28-GARDENA-ELCE2019.pdf)** > > 2.86 MB Github site of the code, as far as it is open source: > **[GitHub - husqvarnagroup/smart-garden-gateway-public: Open Source Components...](https://github.com/husqvarnagroup/smart-garden-gateway-public)** > > Open Source Components of the GARDENA smart Gateway - GitHub - husqvarnagroup/smart-garden-gateway-public: Open Source Components of the GARDENA smart Gateway Another Github site that deals with Home Assistand integration: > **[GitHub - py-smart-gardena/hass-gardena-smart-system: Home Assistant custom...](https://github.com/py-smart-gardena/hass-gardena-smart-system)** > > Home Assistant custom component integration for Gardena Smart System - GitHub - py-smart-gardena/hass-gardena-smart-system: Home Assistant custom component integration for Gardena Smart System And anoher one that deals with “iobroker”, thedescription says one can crete an alternatve app that can be used side by side to the Gardena app: > **[GitHub - jpgorganizer/ioBroker.smartgarden: GARDENA smart system adapter for...](https://github.com/jpgorganizer/ioBroker.smartgarden)** > > GARDENA smart system adapter for ioBroker. Contribute to jpgorganizer/ioBroker.smartgarden development by creating an account on GitHub. I am not an expert, but this looks like there’s enough information to create a working app for Homey to avoid the requirement of a hub. [EDIT]: And yet another project in Python: [GitHub - py-smart-gardena/py-smart-gardena: Python library to interact with gardena systems](https://github.com/py-smart-gardena/py-smart-gardena) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/25 "2023-05-30T13:15:13Z")
That’s interesting indeed, pass it on to support I would suggest. ---
**Author:** ![Thomas\_Bjalkenfalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/thomas_bjalkenfalk/32/65906_2.png) [@Thomas\_Bjalkenfalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Thomas_Bjalkenfalk)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/26 "2023-06-21T17:06:00Z")
Did you solve this? I got the same problem. So at the moment gardena runs the scheduling, not homey 😞 ---
**Author:** ![the\_etk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/the_etk/32/83012_2.png) [@the\_etk](https://community.homey.app/u/the_etk)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/27 "2023-09-11T17:25:21Z")
I’m brand new to Homey and am just having a play round to see which of my smart home devices I can use with the system. I’ve got a gardena watering system (soil sensor and water controller with gateway) which has added to Homey with no problems. The issue I have is when I try and use the sensor in an advanced flow. I’d like to do the following: At 08:00 check the water humidity and if \>60% water for 1 minute and if \<60% water for 10 minutes. For some reason I don’t seem to be able to use the sensor as an “And…” card (after the time trigger), only a “When…” card. I’m not sure this will work properly as it looks like it will only trigger as the sensor passes 60% humidity, rather than being something I can check at a set time every day. Am I doing something wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/28 "2023-09-11T18:38:53Z")
> [@the\_etk](#): > > At 08:00 check the water humidity and if \>60% water for 1 minute and if \<60% water for 10 minutes The AND cards are mostly available as a [Logics card](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/4410240765586-Using-Homey-Logic-in-Flows), where one can use the value tag of the sensor (or anything else). But on Homey it’s imho easier to turn it around. Make the time a condition, and make the humidity a trigger ![Screenshot 2023-09-11 at 20-44-14 1.HomeyPro Peter](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/7/d78ed484b6f0b9ebb8e5d50f433ac60d75b87641.png) ---
**Author:** ![the\_etk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/the_etk/32/83012_2.png) [@the\_etk](https://community.homey.app/u/the_etk)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/29 "2023-09-11T19:03:15Z")
thanks for the really helpful reply @Peter_Kawa I’m so new I hadn’t yet worked out the logic tests but it all makes sense now. I’ve managed to get it working, only issue I have now is the one which was flagged a couple of years ago - the Gardena system turns on for just 1 minute then shuts itself off, the timer in my flow doesn’t make any difference. Has anyone managed to get this irrigation system watering for the correct amount of time? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/30 "2023-09-11T19:05:11Z")
YW! Can you share the Gardena flow? Or did you refer to a bug by > [@the\_etk](#): > > issue I have now is the one which was flagged a couple of years ago ---
**Author:** ![the\_etk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/the_etk/32/83012_2.png) [@the\_etk](https://community.homey.app/u/the_etk)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/31 "2023-09-11T20:04:21Z")
Yes, it was a bug that @Gerben_Zomer referred to here: > [@Gerben\_Zomer](#): > > Who can help, > > I have gateway with irrigation unit. > But when i start flow for 59 minutes > It only does one minute and then stops. > In the browser on gardena it shows one minute left. > > Who can help me? But I worked it out - for some reason you have to go into the device settings for the controller (within Homey) and set a default length of time for watering, provided this is longer than you’d ever want to water for you can then use the delays in Flow to turn off after the appropriate amount of time. For example I set the watering time to 60 minutes, this means that if I just turn it on it will do a full hour but if I use a delay at, say, 10 minutes it will shut off. I’m afraid I can’t see how to share the flow but will try and work that out too! ---
**Author:** ![Matthieu\_Moreau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/matthieu_moreau/32/57526_2.png) [@Matthieu\_Moreau](https://community.homey.app/u/Matthieu_Moreau)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/32 "2023-09-11T20:18:22Z")
hello everyone, why do you use Gardena? While there are cheaper alternative solutions. ---
**Author:** ![Arnoud\_Fleer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f1d935/32.png) [@Arnoud\_Fleer](https://community.homey.app/u/Arnoud_Fleer)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/33 "2023-09-18T12:07:29Z")
Hello, can someone help me with my problem? I have 5 zones that work perfectly with and I control them all with homey. I can’t use the Gardena app because of my pump that is switched on and off via the homey (smart switch). But now I want to try to use the gardena app instead. Why? because of the functionality of the app. Then I can stop watering when there comes heavy rain ore water more when there is a lot of sun coming. This all is very easy when is it all taken care of by gardena. The problem is that I can not get the valves and pomp work seamlessly with each other. Probably because there is no ‘’ if ‘’ button when making a flow. Is maybe someone smart enough to help me with my problem, and knows a work around when gardena does not have a ‘’ if ‘’ button. ---
**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 7:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/34 "2023-09-29T07:28:24Z")
@Arnoud_Fleer You can use the Watch/Listener When-flowcards from the Device Capabilities app to create When cards for devices/apps that do not have those flowcards. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/35 "2023-09-29T13:13:54Z")
Which When card are you looking for? ![Screenshot_20230929-151251_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/a/5/a5fc0d5d14a765b51d2f3a3eb3ab7293bc1e7505.jpeg) Note the available cards differ when you look up your flow cards via your device. Try looking them up via the app in the left column > ![Screenshot_20230929-151803_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/9/c97eeb0fadf4b0292e808af66095293127b9fee2.jpeg) When you use a non-gardena soil sensor f.i., you should use the When cards of that sensor instead. ---
**Author:** ![doud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/doud/32/79548_2.png) [@doud](https://community.homey.app/u/doud)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/36 "2024-07-25T12:23:58Z")
Hi everyone; I want to integrate Gardena devices into my Homey Pro but once the permissions are activated for the Husqvarna Group account, I get the message “404 not found”. What exactly do we need to do from the Husqvarna portal for Gardena device integration? Can you help me with this integration please? Thank you in advance for your help. Doud ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/37 "2024-07-25T12:29:45Z")
You should contact the app developer (Athom), it sounds like there were backend changes and the “official” app wasn’t updated accordingly. > **[Submitting a support request](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360015784034-Submitting-a-support-request)** > > If you are encountering a problem, and need support, you can contact our support team here. >   ---
**Author:** ![Andreas\_Ayo\_Cruz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/andreas_ayo_cruz/32/80470_2.png) [@Andreas\_Ayo\_Cruz](https://community.homey.app/u/Andreas_Ayo_Cruz)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/38 "2024-08-01T21:01:14Z")
I have the same problem as well. ☹ Did you contact support? ---
**Author:** ![doud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/doud/32/79548_2.png) [@doud](https://community.homey.app/u/doud)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 9:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/39 "2024-08-05T09:08:10Z")
Hi, Yes I contacted the support and they told me they are working on it. “Thank you for your reply and sending the clear video. Our development team is currently investigating the issue to see why this is happening. Once I receive an update from them I will immediately contact you again. We apologize for the inconvenience. I wish you a great day. Best Regards, Dorean Athom Support”. Good day. ---
**Author:** ![Birger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/birger/32/120862_2.png) [@Birger](https://community.homey.app/u/Birger)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 6:36am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644/40 "2025-04-15T06:36:22Z")
I’m having the same issue, so looks like Husquarva isn’t exactly prioritizing Homey. [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/gardena-what-is-needed/13644.md?page=3)