# Flows are not starting other flows since update 8.0.4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** flow\ **Created:** [August 23, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813 "2022-08-23T20:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Roy\_Agterberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roy_agterberg/32/55946_2.png) [@Roy\_Agterberg](https://community.homey.app/u/Roy_Agterberg)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/1 "2022-08-23T20:08:30Z")
Good day lads, I’m having issues with my Homey. I’m using structured flows to seperate ligths and switches so I can create multiple scenes and change a light now and then without going through all the flows to change the lights. Nevertheless. The thing is, when a flow is triggered that has to trigger another flow. The other flow won’t get triggered. When I run the flow by hand (that won’t get triggered by the flow above) it works flawless. As a matter of fact, everything worked yesterday. And this morning (4-5 am) the Homey updated itself and now the flows in other flows won’t get triggered. Does anybody also have this problem? Or maybe a solution? I already rebooted the Homey, but with no avail. I also tried to re-add the flow, to the flow, but this also did nothing. I’m not using advanced flow btw. Thanks in advance! ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 5:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/2 "2022-08-24T05:53:55Z")
> [@Roy\_Agterberg](#): > > Does anybody also have this problem? Or maybe a solution? > [@Something not working after a Homey firmware update? HERE'S THE SOLUTION](https://community.homey.app/t/something-not-working-after-a-homey-firmware-update-heres-the-solution/67824): > > [Pull The Plug](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-ptp/17304) (on Homey). (and if that doesn’t work, and your Homey pre-2023 model is still using the original Athom power supply: replace it!) ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Agterberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roy_agterberg/32/55946_2.png) [@Roy\_Agterberg](https://community.homey.app/u/Roy_Agterberg)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/3 "2022-08-24T12:31:02Z")
that’s clear enough 🙂 will do as soon as I get home! ---
**Author:** ![Elko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/elko/32/16812_2.png) [@Elko](https://community.homey.app/u/Elko)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/4 "2022-08-24T14:40:18Z")
I have exactly the same problem here as Roy. I noticed this as well this morning, when leaving for work. I used the google assistant to call a flow for leaving, this flow triggers a flow for turning off the lights, which as you can guess did not work anymore. Just now, after comming home i checked why this was the case and noticed the same issue as Roy. I created a new flow that triggers an other flow, with the same result. It is not possible anymore to trigger a flow with another flow. Overhere the update was running at 4.50 am, before that time my morning routine flow started just fine. Hope it gets solved real quick. ---
**Author:** ![JoopSr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/joopsr/32/31281_2.png) [@JoopSr](https://community.homey.app/u/JoopSr)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/5 "2022-08-24T14:55:29Z")
I have the same issue. Starting a flow to inquire my wall switch to switch on the lights; all related flows started from this flow are not executed. ☹ I have to start all flows from within the app otherwise it will stay dark. I can start these flows from within the app, but my partner doesn’t know what to do. Yesterday evening when I came home she was reading a book with the assistance of here phones flashlight. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/6 "2022-08-24T15:04:46Z")
Workaround: 1 create a virtual device (button not on/off) 2 replace the “start flow” with push the butoon 3 “replace the when this flow” is started by the button An advantage is that you can now also trace back how flows are started (virtual devices have a flow button that shows in which flows they are used.) (Main reason why I started using the virual devices iso flow triggers) Disadvantage is ofcourse that you have to create virual devices… ---
**Author:** ![JoopSr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/joopsr/32/31281_2.png) [@JoopSr](https://community.homey.app/u/JoopSr)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/7 "2022-08-24T17:27:43Z")
Thanks for the tip. But I have a load of flows I need te re-design. I want this to work ascespected. ---
**Author:** ![JoopSr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/joopsr/32/31281_2.png) [@JoopSr](https://community.homey.app/u/JoopSr)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/8 "2022-08-24T17:28:23Z")
Unplug and reconnect doesn’t solve the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Jero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jero/32/17556_2.png) [@Jero](https://community.homey.app/u/Jero)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/9 "2022-08-24T17:41:44Z")
What happens if you hit test in the Flow editor on the Flow that starts another Flow? Does the ‘Start a Flow’ card error? ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Agterberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roy_agterberg/32/55946_2.png) [@Roy\_Agterberg](https://community.homey.app/u/Roy_Agterberg)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/10 "2022-08-24T18:13:37Z")
PTP didn’t solved it. The flow that contains cards with other flows does run without errors when I press the Test button. But the flow card that gets called in the flow that I tested doesn’t run. ---
**Author:** ![Jero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jero/32/17556_2.png) [@Jero](https://community.homey.app/u/Jero)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/11 "2022-08-24T18:25:41Z")
Does it show an error? ---
**Author:** ![DennisMeekelenkamp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dennismeekelenkamp/32/34206_2.png) [@DennisMeekelenkamp](https://community.homey.app/u/DennisMeekelenkamp)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/12 "2022-08-24T18:33:34Z")
Same problem here sonce this morning. Icasa switch triggers a flow nothing happens. Icasa triggers only one light= light goes on Test button in flow also does not switch the lights but the green ok sign shows ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Agterberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roy_agterberg/32/55946_2.png) [@Roy\_Agterberg](https://community.homey.app/u/Roy_Agterberg)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/13 "2022-08-24T18:44:26Z")
Exactly, main flow runs while testing. Leaves al cards checked with a green mark, even the cards that should trigger/start a flow. But the triggered flows don’t get executed. ---
**Author:** ![Jero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jero/32/17556_2.png) [@Jero](https://community.homey.app/u/Jero)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/14 "2022-08-24T19:31:14Z")
Do the When cards in the started Flow have tags? ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Agterberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roy_agterberg/32/55946_2.png) [@Roy\_Agterberg](https://community.homey.app/u/Roy_Agterberg)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/15 "2022-08-24T19:51:29Z")
Yes, i use a dummy var that never gets changed in the “when” slot of flows that are used as a function or execution of actions that are very common in a lot of other scenes. So i don’t have to add all these cards to other flows which makes errors easier to trace. And of course easier to change a light bulb without changing lots of flows. Edit: sorry, no tags, only a var, “if changed” ![Screenshot_2022-08-24-21-53-55-24_4bbfc4a7dd885a2bb189f300112a7ed4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/5/d54b57c38da8d5f3c0bb7f69a6b0a302ee36612e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jero/32/17556_2.png) [@Jero](https://community.homey.app/u/Jero)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/16 "2022-08-24T19:55:01Z")
I’ve identified the issue I will look into a fix asap. Meanwhile if you want your Flow fixed right now you can use the ‘When this Flow is started’ card. ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Agterberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roy_agterberg/32/55946_2.png) [@Roy\_Agterberg](https://community.homey.app/u/Roy_Agterberg)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 5:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/17 "2022-08-25T05:17:02Z")
That’s good to hear! 🙂 I will wait for the fix, otherwise I have to change to much flows. And my structure is designed in a way that ‘When this Flow is started’ wouldn’t properly work for 80% of the flows. ---
**Author:** ![Robin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin/32/35437_2.png) [@Robin](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 9:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/18 "2022-08-25T09:19:46Z")
The fix is available in the Experimental release channel, version 8.0.5-rc.1. Please let us know if this has resolved the issue for you! ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Agterberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/roy_agterberg/32/55946_2.png) [@Roy\_Agterberg](https://community.homey.app/u/Roy_Agterberg)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/19 "2022-08-25T12:12:25Z")
I also replied to Dennis via mail. But I will also write it here. The 8.0.5-rc.1 experimantal release fixed the issue for me! ---
**Author:** ![JoopSr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/joopsr/32/31281_2.png) [@JoopSr](https://community.homey.app/u/JoopSr)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813/20 "2022-08-25T19:53:03Z")
Issue seems to be solved in the experimental release. Thanks a lot. [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/flows-are-not-starting-other-flows-since-update-8-0-4/67813.md?page=2)