# Flow suddenly runs without beting triggered

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751>\
**Category:** Flows\
**Tags:** homey-pro, advancedflow\
**Created:** [January 6, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751 "2025-01-06T11:00:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![martinka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martinka/32/121970_2.png) [@martinka](https://community.homey.app/u/martinka)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/1 "2025-01-06T11:00:27Z")

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I have an advanced flow that I run every night, which is called “Go to bed”. This flow turns off all lights and music, locks the door and sets the personal status to “sleeping”. This works out great, but for some reason, the last couple of weeks this flow is started without being triggered.

So I am at home, and suddenly all the lights turns off and the main entrance gets locked. In the app I can see that “I am now sleeping”.

Anyone who have experienced something similar? Is there a way to see how the flow is triggered? Is it from the app, a switch or something else?

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**Author:** ![Ruurd\_van\_der\_Noord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ruurd_van_der_noord/32/71093_2.png) [@Ruurd\_van\_der\_Noord](https://community.homey.app/u/Ruurd_van_der_Noord)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/2 "2025-01-06T11:46:58Z")

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Welcome on this forum Martinka, I remember running in to this once. Does your flow contain a ˵Start-card

 ![HFSC](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/6/86cb8059dead8acba8230bcac5598b62f4a60180.png)  
˶ ?

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**Author:** ![martinka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martinka/32/121970_2.png) [@martinka](https://community.homey.app/u/martinka)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/3 "2025-01-06T12:02:07Z")

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Hi,  
Thanks for the reply!  
Yes, it does. I have a widget on my iPhone with multiple Homey flows, on of them is the “Go to bed”. And to my understanding, I need to have this Start Button-thingy in order to trigger it from my phone?

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**Author:** ![Ruurd\_van\_der\_Noord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ruurd_van_der_noord/32/71093_2.png) [@Ruurd\_van\_der\_Noord](https://community.homey.app/u/Ruurd_van_der_Noord)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 12:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/4 "2025-01-06T12:39:34Z")

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Yes Martinka you could need this, there a other possiblities with the ˵start-flow-card˶ in this flow in combination with a virual button that does start the flow.

 ![HSFC](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/4/b48af95e29c544119563704f83c4c4da63b91e16.png)

1. [Virtual - Device Capabilities](https://homey.app/en-us/app/nl.qluster-it.DeviceCapabilities/Device-Capabilities/)
2. [Virtual Device](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360024401113-Enabling-the-Virtual-Devices-Experiment)
3. 

Just for testing you can delete the ˵Start Card˶, see what happens.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/5 "2025-01-06T21:40:03Z")

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When you use this flow to check on f.i. the lock and one of the lights, it shows some background info.  
App: [Device Capabilities](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287)

> ![1000040830](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/8/3/835c436dd7c8cba4a1396187abbe1ad3c5bb1d99.jpeg)

Instead of `dim_level`, you could pick `onoff` as capability to check upon

And, or,  
you could check with any device in that flow, what was the cause of switching. But this shows less specific info.  
Just longpress a device tile, and tap the `=` like icon:

> ![1000040833](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/3/93488acb91d1348115401708db8525c3e193d2b3.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![PJ-AU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pj-au/32/17303_2.png) [@PJ-AU](https://community.homey.app/u/PJ-AU)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/6 "2025-03-15T00:22:51Z")

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I am currently experiencing my Sonos speakers randomly playing music and also trying to track down what (flow and endpoint) is causing this. It probably happens every few days and yet to figure out. I have several basic Flows for each family member to play their favourite Sonos playlist so figure related to these. Unfortunately the Sonos speaker doesn’t include a flow audit feature like some other Homey devices.  
I have added some basic auditing with these Music Flows to understand if these are being executed and another Advanced Flow to track all music being executed in case its something else. I have also asked the household to not use the Sonos app until I resolve. Is there a debug mode or a running log perhaps under SSH where all logs are recorded for troubleshooting purposes?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 1:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/7 "2025-03-15T01:48:39Z")

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You can view the flows involved per mobile app  
Go to …More \> apps \> Sonos app:

 ![1000045251](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/b/ebe2fcc6f2358909756132f799c471bbeef46933.jpeg)

Or longpress the Sonos device tile(s):

 ![1000045253](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/5/d5c6d39346cc69de36acb92a5224a685da66f09a.jpeg)

Another thing you can do:  
Install Audit app (work in process), and set both message and detail logging to level ‘debug’:

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Audit - Adds logging and tracing to your Homey Pro and integrates into third party systems](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-audit-adds-logging-and-tracing-to-your-homey-pro-and-integrates-into-third-party-systems/101554/98):
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> Hello MW You don’t need to use Betterstack. The daily log files are available as local URL: The Message log of Dec. 8th, 2024: http://[my.homey.ip.address]/app/com.audit/userdata/message.20241208.log The Details log of Dec. 8th, 2024: http://[my.homey.ip.address]/app/com.audit/userdata/detail.20241208.log Global URL: When your Homey IP address is 192.168.0.100 for example, the global URL of the Dec. 8th, 2024 Message log would be: https://192-168-0-100.homey.homeylocal.com/app/com.audit/us…

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**Author:** ![PJ-AU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pj-au/32/17303_2.png) [@PJ-AU](https://community.homey.app/u/PJ-AU)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2025, 4:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/8 "2025-03-15T04:57:19Z")

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Thanks @Peter_Kawa appreciate the post. I am across the first 2 tips, however will explore the Audit App as that looks promising.

New info just in …. Apart from this Sonos music randomly playing my driveway gate and garage door are also randomly activating (once again every few days). Thankfully they do have an audit history and advised they were activated by a basic Flow via my mobile device which is weird?

I do have both of these Flows and some music flows marked as Favourites on my iPhone which are also published to my Apple Watch …. Hmmm … the plot thickens. More auditing required. Anyone else experience this?

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**Author:** ![Pere\_Capdevila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pere_capdevila/32/79883_2.png) [@Pere\_Capdevila](https://community.homey.app/u/Pere_Capdevila)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 9:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/9 "2025-03-26T09:06:26Z")

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Adding this case here.  
My sleeping room blinds roll up every day at 6:30 am. I had a flow in the past for this specific blind for the same action at 7:30 am. I deleted the flow, but keeps running at 6:30 and there is no flow for this blind. It seems a ghost flow.

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**Author:** ![Ruurd\_van\_der\_Noord](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ruurd_van_der_noord/32/71093_2.png) [@Ruurd\_van\_der\_Noord](https://community.homey.app/u/Ruurd_van_der_Noord)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-suddenly-runs-without-beting-triggered/126751/10 "2025-03-26T12:54:51Z")

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Welcome to this forum Pere.  
That is annoying, it seems like the same case as above, but that is not necessarily so.  
Maybe it is better to share the details, like protocol, app, versions etc. Also check the info above from Peter Kawa.  
Next what did you do to try to get rid of this, except deleting the related flow, such as a restart, or rerun etc.  
Also check [Developer](https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/zigbee) to see if the unwanted trigger came from Homey. (column ˵Last Seen˶)
