# Flow can run, but dosn't exsists

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Tags:** flow\
**Created:** [September 23, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099 "2021-09-23T09:43:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Mads\_Zaulich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mads_zaulich/32/34564_2.png) [@Mads\_Zaulich](https://community.homey.app/u/Mads_Zaulich)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/1 "2021-09-23T09:43:58Z")

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Hi all,

I have a issue, where I have created a flow, that excecute another flow.  
Then, after some time, I changed the naming standard of my flows, and deleted a couple of flows.

Now I have a flow, that points to “F\_Heim\_Deaktiver”. But I have no flow with that name. I don’t even have a flow that excecute the stuff in that flow. So, the F\_Heim\_Deaktiver" works, but I don’t have it. (therefor I can’t see what configured, or changed something).  
How is this possible, and How can I get it back so I can see what that flow does?

 ![242496335_10159740458742138_568183137691948208_n](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/9/c98e96493ff3f393009c76b61b3ef0d9fbddd2ca.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/2 "2021-09-23T09:52:27Z")

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Ultimately, this is a bug and should be reported to [support@athom.com](mailto:support@athom.com)

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 9:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/3 "2021-09-23T09:53:22Z")

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If you change the name of a flow, the name is only changed in the original flow. The name will not be updated in a flow card as that one you have highlighted.  
However, you say that there is no flow that triggers the actions of the “old” (deleted?) flow. But still the actions are triggered. Based on my experience, that can’t actually be the case.

A workaround may be a homey restart.

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**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 10:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/4 "2021-09-23T10:07:44Z")

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Maybe you can discover the flow by going to devices/device that is switched by this flow, there is a link to the flow(s) that are used for this device, you can see how the flow is named.

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**Author:** ![Mads\_Zaulich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mads_zaulich/32/34564_2.png) [@Mads\_Zaulich](https://community.homey.app/u/Mads_Zaulich)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 11:03am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/5 "2021-09-23T11:03:56Z")

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Like I said. The flow doesn’t exists

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/6 "2021-09-23T13:50:27Z")

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I seriously don’t get the problem. Just remove it from this flow and see what happens (or doesn’t happen anymore).

It is what @DirkG says; if a flow get’s renamed it doesn’t update the linked flows. It just updates the name of the actual flow. What you are seeing is a name pointing to an ID.  
And it indeed can be a bug too, in that case we cannot help you. Only support will be able to help.

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/7 "2021-09-23T14:01:59Z")

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> [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](#):
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> It is what @fantross says; if a flow get’s renamed it doesn’t update the linked flows.

That’s a bug IMO. It makes no sense to allow people to rename flows but not update that name in other flows that reference it.

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**Author:** ![Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/martijn_hoogenbosch/32/10647_2.png) [@Martijn\_Hoogenbosch](https://community.homey.app/u/Martijn_Hoogenbosch)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/8 "2021-09-23T14:24:34Z")

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I would agree, but it has been a bug for ages now. I don’t know if they themself think it is a bug.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/9 "2021-09-23T15:09:02Z")

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Maybe this is of any use

> [@My Homey works like \*\*\*\* flows dissapear from devices. Hue devices are see multiple times and more](https://community.homey.app/t/my-homey-works-like-flows-dissapear-from-devices-hue-devices-are-see-multiple-times-and-more/51946/8):
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> Flows don’t disappear unless you delete them.  
> What _does_ happen is that you (accidentally) gave two flows the same name.  
> Then you often “find” only 1 of the 2 flows, and _seems_ the other has disappeared.  
> In the web app you can search by flow name, and discover flows with the same name.

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**Author:** ![Edwin\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_d/32/136417_2.png) [@Edwin\_D](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_D)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/flow-can-run-but-dosnt-exsists/52099/10 "2021-09-23T17:16:09Z")

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> [@Mads\_Zaulich](#):
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> Like I said. The flow doesn’t exist

As @JPe4619 said, a flow does exist, just not by the old name. The best way to find it is through the devices it operates. Two ways: in the device page, go to the flows tab to see which flows are associated with that device and look through them.

The other way, if “it” happens (what the seemingly non-existent flow does that you do not want, look into the device log. There you can often see which flow operated the device at the given time:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/3/63f2588282b273cfb1480650c3df98adf89bcea0.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/7/37edc3a5769da0478239cc68f8a43879c706acdb.jpeg)
