# Fibaro RGBW phantom association with Dimmers (switching on without flow, association or manual switch)
**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-rgbw-phantom-association-with-dimmers-switching-on-without-flow-association-or-manual-switch/67941
**Category:** Questions & Help
**Created:** [August 26, 2022, 8:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-rgbw-phantom-association-with-dimmers-switching-on-without-flow-association-or-manual-switch/67941 "2022-08-26T08:34:07Z")
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### Author:  [@K\_S](https://community.homey.app/u/K_S)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2022, 8:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-rgbw-phantom-association-with-dimmers-switching-on-without-flow-association-or-manual-switch/67941/1 "2022-08-26T08:34:07Z")
Anybody know how to trace what might be causing a device to switch on?
I have 2 Fibaro dimmers which turn on their attached lights at least once per day, neither of which has an association or flow associated with them.
How can I determine what is causing them to switch on?
This is one of them:
```auto
💡 Office Lights
Property Value
ID 987882fd-2ba8-4538-af2b-35b562ee1f16
Name 💡 Office Lights
Class light
Driver homey:app:com.fibaro — FGD-212
Ready Yes
Available Yes
Warning No
Custom icon No
Data
Key Value
token "53b5a801-68ef-4a04-b92d-f58e237950df"
Settings
Key Value
zw_node_id "75"
zw_manufacturer_id "271"
zw_product_type_id "258"
zw_product_id "4096"
zw_secure "⨯"
zw_battery "⨯"
zw_device_class_basic "BASIC_TYPE_ROUTING_SLAVE"
zw_device_class_generic "GENERIC_TYPE_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL"
zw_device_class_specific "SPECIFIC_TYPE_POWER_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL"
zw_firmware_id "274"
zw_application_version "3"
zw_application_sub_version "5"
zw_hardware_version "2"
zw_wakeup_interval 0
zw_wakeup_enabled false
zw_application_version_1 "3"
zw_application_sub_version_1 "5"
zw_group_1 "1"
zw_group_2 ""
zw_group_3 ""
zw_group_4 ""
zw_group_5 ""
scene_activation false
double_click true
3_way_switch false
switch_s1_and_s2 true
switch_type "2"
timer_functionality 0
minimum_brightness 1
maximum_brightness 99
forced_brightness_level 20
dimming_step_auto 1
time_dimming_step_auto 1
dimming_step_manual 5
time_dimming_step_manual 5
force_no_dim false
save_state true
watt_report 10
watt_interval 3600
kwh_report 0.1
self_measurement false
force_auto_calibration "0"
soft_start "1"
zw_configuration_value ""
Capabilities
ID Title Type Value Set Value Last Changed
dim Dim level number 0
0
10 hours ago
measure_power Power number 0 10 hours ago
meter_power Energy number 7.7 10 hours ago
onoff Turned on boolean false
10 hours ago
```
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### Author:  [@hmarkstrom](https://community.homey.app/u/hmarkstrom)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2022, 7:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-rgbw-phantom-association-with-dimmers-switching-on-without-flow-association-or-manual-switch/67941/2 "2022-08-28T07:50:58Z")
When a device of this type is not working correct you must check that all cables are connected and is not loose.
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### Author:  [@K\_S](https://community.homey.app/u/K_S)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/fibaro-rgbw-phantom-association-with-dimmers-switching-on-without-flow-association-or-manual-switch/67941/3 "2022-12-14T16:57:13Z")
It’s not a cabling problem. It’s some kind of bug with the RGBW module firmware, supposedly fixed with a firmware update but not in my case: [Phantom menace (RGBW) - RGBW Controller - Smart Home Forum by FIBARO](https://forum.fibaro.com/topic/23820-phantom-menace-rgbw/)